Speculation: Would you trade a future-Krejci for a future-Horton?

[GloryDaze4877]

Thanks.

Fwiw, I do think Spooner could play wing. He's said he feels like he's smart enough to convert. I don't know that it's the best use of his talents, and the Bruins have, IMO, shown a bit of tunnel vision with their insistence on not moving him around a bit to develop some versatility. So either they see something (I don't) that suggests he's not a good candidate to switch, or they had a plan for him that's now being upended a bit.

I don't have someone specific in mind, but I know the type: a young gunner with skill and tenacity. A guy like Tyler Toffoli comes to mind, but LA isn't in need of a C. For a deal to work, I think you'd have to find a team that's in need of help down the middle, and then see if they have a high-end right winger.

You might have to throw in a pick, but would you deal Spooner for Saad?

CHI seems thin after Toews and Handzus is about 80. I know CHI has Pirri in the wings, but Spooner was better in the AHL at a younger age.

 

[PlayMakers]

I wouldn't trade a future-Krejci for a future-Horton. Part of the reason is that if a player is a future-Krejci, he's going to be outstanding in the playoffs (to me, Krejci has probably been the best forward in the playoffs the past 4 to 5 years). While it's nice to have a performer during the regular season, championships are won in the playoffs.

Horton didn't deliver in the playoffs?

It's a tough question Bill.

Certainly a compelling enough of an argument on either side of the coin. I think he (The Spoons) can play on this team and future iterations - but looking at next year: will Soderberg and returning winger from this trade be more difficult to play against than Spooner centering Soda? I think that's the real question.

Ultimately, it is about icing a better team, a harder team to play against, a deeper team who can score from any line. So if the deal is right, you jump. But that's easy to say and harder to pull off.

Someone mentioned Emerson Etem and that'd probably be my pick of the litter and I'm still not sure I'd do that; I like the potential of that prospect but he's struggled, too. They all have learning curves.

Well said.

But who are you talking about acquiring?

I'm reluctant to name names because if someone doesn't value, say Emerson Etem, the same as I do then all of a sudden I'm looking to "downgrade" and not trade Grade A for Grade A. That said, I lile some of the names I've seen mentioned. i.e. Palmieri, Smith-Pelly, Toffoli, Marcus Foligno, Brett Connolly...

 

[PlayMakers]

You might have to throw in a pick, but would you deal Spooner for Saad?

CHI seems thin after Toews and Handzus is about 80. I know CHI has Pirri in the wings, but Spooner was better in the AHL at a younger age.

Yes.

I hate to say it. Spooner is going to be a stud, but Saad could be the better goal scorer and the size/strength component makes us a tougher playoff team now and in the near future while Spoons is building up his man-strength and adjusting to the league.

 

[Rookie Chargers]

Which Horton? It was not his injuries that sent him on his on and off tempo. Didn't impress me before or after the trade.

 

[DKH]

its interesting reading this post and matching up what the Bruins apparently think

 

[BNHL]

My apologies BNHL. I never meant to make the implication that the latter opinion was yours... That's my folly through quoting you directly and via "'s and you're correct to correct me.

Still stands that there are some in Kelly's Korner who have expressed that hypocritical conflict of opinions.

And Spooner WAS doing just fine until reports about an ankle injury surfaced and his intensity dropped. I'd be very hesitant to believe that the two are simply coincidence and that Spooner all of the sudden STOPPED improving without reason.

I never heard about the injury but wouldn't you expect any young player to improve in stops and starts? I thought he was a non factor for his last handful of games and at times invisible. That's not saying I think he's not a talent but a talent that was in a stall. I think it's typical.

 

[DKH]

I never heard about the injury but wouldn't you expect any young player to improve in stops and starts? I thought he was a non factor for his last handful of games and at times invisible. That's not saying I think he's not a talent but a talent that was in a stall. I think it's typical.

He hurt his ankle in the second period of the Winnipeg game- maybe missed a shift, but hurt to stop and start but don't believe said anything about it because its The Show, baby, The Show.

 

[DKH]

Which Horton? It was not his injuries that sent him on his on and off tempo. Didn't impress me before or after the trade.

I like Horton but he makes Krejci look like Mr Consistency

 

[DKH]

You might have to throw in a pick, but would you deal Spooner for Saad?

CHI seems thin after Toews and Handzus is about 80. I know CHI has Pirri in the wings, but Spooner was better in the AHL at a younger age.

I love Ryan but you are drinking that ****ed up beer you dropped at the Patriots game because you are light weight if you think Chicago gives up Saad for Spooner at this time.

Chiarelli was all over Kassian on draft day maybe he can get him now- he looks like a mess and maybe Boston would be able to bring out the beast or best or both in him

 

[member 96824]

I never heard about the injury but wouldn't you expect any young player to improve in stops and starts? I thought he was a non factor for his last handful of games and at times invisible. That's not saying I think he's not a talent but a talent that was in a stall. I think it's typical.

The ankle hasn't been well documented, his sickness and loss of 13 points has though.

 

[Confound]

You might have to throw in a pick, but would you deal Spooner for Saad?

CHI seems thin after Toews and Handzus is about 80. I know CHI has Pirri in the wings, but Spooner was better in the AHL at a younger age.

Saad for Spooner is an easy yes from me.

Saad is already a top 6 player and is very good defensively and will only get better.

He doesn't even play with Toews either, IIRC he plays on Shaw's wing on their third line. Either way he's a stud and would make a great Bruin, too bad that will never happen.

 

[MTaylorJ1]

I love Ryan but you are drinking that ****ed up beer you dropped at the Patriots game because you are light weight if you think Chicago gives up Saad for Spooner at this time.

Chiarelli was all over Kassian on draft day maybe he can get him now- he looks like a mess and maybe Boston would be able to bring out the beast or best or both in him

Which is an interesting thought, but I wouldn't deal Spooner for him.

What is it the Bruins apparently think about Spooner?

 

[reffree]

If the deal is good, I'm dealing him for sure. There's comparaison between Spooner and Krejci here, but personnaly I see Spooner skill set alot more like a Sam Gagne, Mikael Grabovsky. Defenitely skilled, but a skill set who doesn't suit well on wings or on a bottom 6 line and not good enough to be a top 2 center on a cup contender.

I know he's young and anything can happen, it's just the way I see it (I've been wrong before, mainly with Marchand who I didn't think was going to make it back to his day in the Q).

 

[patty59]

You might have to throw in a pick, but would you deal Spooner for Saad?

CHI seems thin after Toews and Handzus is about 80. I know CHI has Pirri in the wings, but Spooner was better in the AHL at a younger age.

Probably take a lot more than a pick.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

I love Ryan but you are drinking that ****ed up beer you dropped at the Patriots game because you are light weight if you think Chicago gives up Saad for Spooner at this time.

Chiarelli was all over Kassian on draft day maybe he can get him now- he looks like a mess and maybe Boston would be able to bring out the beast or best or both in him

That ****** up beer was Steel Rail which is better than any swill I have seen you guzzling. Apparently, you have been drinking tonight and missed the part where I said Spooner alone would not get you Saad? LOL. This is a hypothetical, just looking at wings of similar age and ability as Spooner.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Probably take a lot more than a pick.

Not THAT much more IMO, but that and $2.00 will get you a large coffee at Dunkin Donuts (or Tim Horton's)

 

[member 96824]

If the deal is good, I'm dealing him for sure. There's comparaison between Spooner and Krejci here, but personnaly I see Spooner skill set alot more like a Sam Gagne, Mikael Grabovsky. Defenitely skilled, but a skill set who doesn't suit well on wings or on a bottom 6 line and not good enough to be a top 2 center on a cup contender.

I know he's young and anything can happen, it's just the way I see it (I've been wrong before, mainly with Marchand who I didn't think was going to make it back to his day in the Q).

That's a lot to gather from a kids first 22 games, which were more productive than most on the current rosters first 22.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

That's a lot to gather from a kids first 22 games, which were more productive than most on the current rosters first 22.

This.

Also, Spooner was a lot more productive in his rookie AHL year than a lot of guys who are now real good NHL players.

 

[reffree]

That's a lot to gather from a kids first 22 games, which were more productive than most on the current rosters first 22.

I explain why I said that and said it wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong. It's the way I see it, if I had to bet the house on a Gagner vs Krejci career I would bet on Gagner. Doesn't mean you're wrong going the other way, cause as we both said, it's too early for defenitive conclusion.

 

[neelynugs]

You might have to throw in a pick, but would you deal Spooner for Saad?

CHI seems thin after Toews and Handzus is about 80. I know CHI has Pirri in the wings, but Spooner was better in the AHL at a younger age.

pretty sure there's no chance you get saad period, let alone for spooner+.........we should've picked him instead of koko

 

[TMac21]

I think Spooner had to play centre, he does not seem to have a great shot from what I've seen, better at dishing the puck for sure.

 

[unifiedtheory]

No, under no circumstance do I trade Krejci. This franchise revolves around it's depth at center. I like Ryan Spooner but we are talking about dealing a guy who has led the playoffs in scoring 2 out of 3 years.

 

[KnightofBoston]

You might have to throw in a pick, but would you deal Spooner for Saad?

CHI seems thin after Toews and Handzus is about 80. I know CHI has Pirri in the wings, but Spooner was better in the AHL at a younger age.

Boy, that could be a good trade for both teams

But it would also make our biggest western competition even better

 

[reffree]

pretty sure there's no chance you get saad period, let alone for spooner+.........we should've picked him instead of koko

Totally agree, no way they trade us Saad for Spooner, even if we add our 2014 1st they won't make it.

 

[DKH]

pretty sure there's no chance you get saad period, let alone for spooner+.........we should've picked him instead of koko

Wasn't he in Knoghts class- btw if you read part I of Knight Shaft it's good to know the suits think like me. Just satin'

Also watch for a mutiny soon- not Boston

And oh those scouts at the game last night I wonder who they were looking at....hmmm