Hawkaholic
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Disagree. 40-50pts while being a very good defensive Dman. Hes better than prime Seabrook imo.
Speculation: Would you move Boqvist as a centerpiece in an Ekblad trade?
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If he scores near 100 or over a 100 goal score the next 3 years in what way is that a blunder by Stan? Because of QO?
TheDachKnight
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Yeah, I see a young Pietrangelo. A guy that puts up 40+ points while playing in all situations and playing the toughest minutes.
RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
Thats why I think I see too, but again, my takes on defensemen are starting to become laughable. I’m just so damn bad at evaluating defensemen.
Are you talking about Bovqvist's multiple concussions? I'ld be more concerned about the guy that is 20, 5'10, and 175 with his bell rung a few times already.
To the original question, absolutely yes if you can make the money work. Ekblad is what you hope Boqvist can develop into the zip code of in a few years. Maybe Bovqvist, Strome, and Shaw for Ekblad, Acciari and a middle round pick?
JaegerDice
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This.
Ekblad would help the team, but not at his current cap hit. If Florida eats salary and we get him for 5, then I say yes.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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For Hawks fans it would. Florida gets taken out behind the wood shed.
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Ekblad has had twice as many concussions as Boqvist not to mention 2 more surgeries on his body. Just because you are bigger doesn't mean you are less susceptible to injuries especially in a league where speed and skill is more prevalent.
Not sure what your point is. Ekblad has played 5.5 years worth more NHL hockey. I'm guessing 5.5 years from now, Bovqvist might have a couple surgeries and few more bells rung too. And not just because he is smaller, but also because he has had multiple bell ringings playing against boys before he even reached pro hockey.
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Connor BeJesus
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SHL is a boys league? News to me (since you mentioned "multiple bell ringings playing against boys").
Hawkaholic
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Murphy makes almost 4, and people love him, yet Ekblad is twice the Dman as him. Him at 5 is an absolute steal, and we'd have to give up a hell of a lot more than Boqvist and some middling Dman like Maatta.
Do you think he will be worth $10 million a year if he averages 30-35 goals a season over the next 3 years? Because the hawks have to start at that number if they want to resign him. What team is going to trade for him with that number to resign?
I’m not saying he is not a good player. It’s just that Stan has forced himself to potentially over pay (again), let him walk, or not get full value for cat in a trade.
RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
They don’t. You can negotiate with him as an unrestricted free agent. There’s no rule that says you must qualify him, or start at the number it would take to qualify him.
If he falls short of expectations, it makes no sense to qualify him.
Styles
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People act like QOs are be all end all. It’s most likely Cat and the Hawks work out a deal before it even matters. Especially with the new circumstances with the flat cap. If the cap went up like it was supposed to do 10M for him would be nothing in 3 years when he’s due for extension.
No but putting up 100 goals over the next 3 years means he’s doing something well.
It was a fair deal for cat and the hawks coming off a 41 goal season. Let’s not get crazy because of Stan’s past failures with cats extension. No one saw covid coming when it was signed. No Monday morning qbing
Toews2Bickell
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Cat had the 2nd most goals in the 2016 draft behind only Auston Matthews...He earned that contract, but last year was a down year no doubt...People loved that cap hit and it can still be a fair deal
legally his shooting has to drop again to %5 rather go back up to 12-15% while Laine’s goes back to 18%-20%
For Ekblad I would give
2 big contract, Keith, Maatta, CDH, Murphy or Saad.
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1 Prospect, Boqvist, Mitchell, Nylander, Strome or AHL(Kurashev...)
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1st or 2nd pick
2 big contract, Keith, Maatta, CDH, Murphy or Saad.
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1 Prospect, Boqvist, Mitchell, Nylander, Strome or AHL(Kurashev...)
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1st or 2nd pick
If the flat cap is here for the forseeable future, then keeping younger and more importantly CHEAPER players will become paramont. Right now, only trades I would make is contract for contract. I'll would hold onto prospects/young NHL players on cheap contracts.
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HawksDub89
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You’re not getting Florida to take TWO big contracts. (Maybe not even one)
And it would be Boqvist and 17. (Which I wouldn’t do)
I was wrong on the $10 million, but they need to qualify him based on actual salary of the last year which is $9 million. They could not qualify him and make him a ufa and then negotiate a contract but he is open to signing with any other team. Or the hawks could go to arbitration and seek a lower salary.
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RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
You keep saying they “need to” give him that qualifying offer. No.
You negotiate a contract with him in the final year of the deal. If he’s being unreasonable and wants to start with the QO number even though the production doesn’t warrant it, you trade him.
