Would you like to see the shootout dropped and ties brought back?

Would you like to see the shootout dropped and ties brought back?

  • Yes

    Votes: 126 42.4%
  • No

    Votes: 158 53.2%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 13 4.4%

  • Total voters
    297

Golden_Jet

Registered User
Sep 21, 2005
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If the NHL doesn't want ties, every game should be worth the same number of points. Since the standings are used to determine which teams qualify for the playoffs (and how they're seeded), the points should be awarded based on how closely the win resembles playoff hockey:

- Regulation win: 5 points
- Overtime win: 4 points
- Shootout win: 3 points
- Shootout loss: 2 points
- Overtime loss: 1 point
- Regulation loss: 0 points

Every game is now worth 5 points, and the closer the outcome is to playoff hockey, the more points are awarded.

It's true that the standings would no longer be directly comparable to previous years, but you could always look at points percentage. (Or you can cut the points in half - so 2.5 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an OT win, etc).
I’d prefer,

2 points regulation win
1.5 points OT/ SO win
0.5 points OT/ SO loss.
 

Toby91ca

Registered User
Oct 17, 2022
2,200
1,633
Only time that’s happened is in sudden death playoffs, never in regular season history.

No, hate ties.

To keep point system similar to past years would like this.

2 points regulation win
1.5 points OT/ SO win
0.5 points OT/ SO loss.
Not entirely accurate....there was 5v5, 20 min OT between 1921-1927, I remember those days :). Then for one year in 1927 it went to 10 min and then no OT at all for 40 years.
 

DFC

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Sep 26, 2013
47,183
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3 on 3 and then a tie, IMO.

I think everyone loves 3v3, but shootouts are kind of anti-climatic after 3v3 ends.
 

HugeInTheShire

You may not like me but, I'm Huge in the Shire
Mar 8, 2021
3,990
5,174
Alberta
I hate the shoot out with a passion, I'd rather see 3-3 for 10 minutes and if nobody scores it's a tie.
 
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SeanMoneyHands

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Apr 18, 2019
13,401
11,543
There shod be four 5 minute OTs. Would eliminate ties.

First OT: 4 on 4
Second OT: 3 on 3
Third OT: 2 on 2
Fourth OT: 1 on 1

2 on 2 and 1 on 1 would be hilarious but super fun to watch.
 

Rockomax

Registered User
Jan 16, 2007
3,229
2,210
Mtl
It was always 5 minutes. The only time it’s ever been 20 was in the playoffs, where there are no ties.
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Looks like I'm much older than I thought 😅
 
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bobholly39

Registered User
Mar 10, 2013
22,370
15,100
If the NHL doesn't want ties, every game should be worth the same number of points. Since the standings are used to determine which teams qualify for the playoffs (and how they're seeded), the points should be awarded based on how closely the win resembles playoff hockey:

- Regulation win: 5 points
- Overtime win: 4 points
- Shootout win: 3 points
- Shootout loss: 2 points
- Overtime loss: 1 point
- Regulation loss: 0 points

Every game is now worth 5 points, and the closer the outcome is to playoff hockey, the more points are awarded.

It's true that the standings would no longer be directly comparable to previous years, but you could always look at points percentage. (Or you can cut the points in half - so 2.5 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an OT win, etc).

This would be such an awesome system to follow....playoff races would be 100% unpredictable until the very last minute each year....
 

tabness

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Apr 4, 2014
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Looks like I'm much older than I thought 😅

Early era hockey had so much experimentation it's amazing. They were considering removing body checking all together, artificial ice, penalizing goonery with reductions in score, and so on. The original six is actually just an ossification of a league context in the later thirties struggling with financial issues.
 

Puck Dogg

Puck life
Mar 13, 2006
1,812
496
Shootout is a coin toss where home advantage evaporates. But I wouldn't want ties back.
 

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Aug 24, 2011
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There shod be four 5 minute OTs. Would eliminate ties.

First OT: 4 on 4
Second OT: 3 on 3
Third OT: 2 on 2
Fourth OT: 1 on 1

2 on 2 and 1 on 1 would be hilarious but super fun to watch.
I can’t believe there are people who hate shootouts so much and there alternatives are this ridiculous
 

McJedi

Registered User
Apr 21, 2020
10,396
7,216
Florida
Way too many stupid 3 point games. The shootout is dumb. It’s not hockey at all. It’s practice. Nothing odd or weird about ties. NFL has them. Soccer has them.
 
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banks

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Aug 29, 2019
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Ties sucked.

And I actually like the shootout.
 
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TheTotalPackage

Registered User
Sep 14, 2006
7,415
5,610
Don't want ties and there is the desire to always have a winner? Then get rid of the point system. Go the MLB and NBA route of wins and losses and games behind, and be done with it.
 

37Bergenov14

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Jul 14, 2016
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Would prefer ties. I'm more concerned with the game being entertaining and competitive, than there "needing" to be a winner. Especially when the decision gets as arbitrary as a shootout is.
 
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37Bergenov14

Registered User
Jul 14, 2016
231
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A tie in a competitive sport always felt incredibly stupid to me.

The whole point is to win
I think its excessive to call it stupid. Sure, if you prefer there needing to be a victor in every singular game, that's your perogative and fine. But by definition, the point of competition is not to win, but to simply compete (or via another definition, be "as good or better" as another, implying ties are part of that).
 

23Monahan

Registered User
Jul 2, 2018
946
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Ties are the worst. Not a big fan of shootouts either but I'll take them over it.

They could definitely extend overtime a couple minutes though, or make overtime wins still 2 point for winner, one for loser. Then make shootout wins either

1. 2 points for winner, 0 points for loser

Or

2. 1 point winner, 0 points loser

This woild encourage teams to get it done in overtime instead of floating around.
 

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