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He came in 3rd for the Smyth... sounds like several people lead them to the championship
He came 2nd in Smythe votes. Hedman won it by a single vote over Point.
He came in 3rd for the Smyth... sounds like several people lead them to the championship
3rd best player after Hedman and Kucherov. Nobody thinks Point or any of these stars are some sort of parasite that can't win the cup.One of these guys did just that 7.5 months ago.
None except Eichel.
This was my first thought as well but we need to see a healthy Eichel so I picked none.
Then again the tag franchise player is extremely elite IMO and the only guy I would give it to right now is Connor.
So there’s no way Malkin, Toews/Kane, Drai, are franchise players, or ever were for that matter?For me, you've gotta be in the top tier of players in the league and THE best player on your team.
So I'm only going with Eichel/Barzal/Pasta/Aho.
Well no. Crosby is the Pens franchise player. McDavid's is Edmonton's. For the Blackhawk's, it was Toews but I think Kane has taken the mantleSo there’s no way Malkin, Toews/Kane, Drai, are franchise players, or ever were for that matter?
I guess we’ll just have to disagree with what a franchise level player is then. For me it doesn’t have to do with the luck of being on a team that has a better player. For example, Matthews is undoubtedly a franchise level player, if he goes to Edmonton or McDavid to TO, that won’t change the quality of player that he isWell no. Crosby is the Pens franchise player. McDavid's is Edmonton's. For the Blackhawk's, it was Toews but I think Kane has taken the mantle
There is no "level" when debating franchise players - either you are the face of the franchise or you aren't. John Tavares was a franchise player in LI. He is not in Toronto. Pettersson, Price, Larkin, Stone, Eichel, Giroux, Barkov, J Hughes, Gaudreau, Kaprizov, and Barzal are all franchise players. It's not about quality of player, but you probably need a shit ton of talent to become the franchise player.I guess we’ll just have to disagree with what a franchise level player is then. For me it doesn’t have to do with the luck of being on a team that has a better player. For example, Matthews is undoubtedly a franchise level player, if he goes to Edmonton or McDavid to TO, that won’t change the quality of player that he is
Well then we’re debating apples and oranges here as our definitions are totally different. Even the poster I was originally replying to was commenting about the “level” the player needed to be. But to each their ownThere is no "level" when debating franchise players - either you are the face of the franchise or you aren't. John Tavares was a franchise player in LI. He is not in Toronto. Pettersson, Price, Larkin, Stone, Eichel, Giroux, Barkov, J Hughes, Gaudreau, Kaprizov, and Barzal are all franchise players. It's not about quality of player, but you probably need a shit ton of talent to become the franchise player.
he would put up 80+ on most other teamsMaybe not Franchise, but i think Barzal has still hidden potential to go for another level as a player.
There is no "level" when debating franchise players - either you are the face of the franchise or you aren't. John Tavares was a franchise player in LI. He is not in Toronto. Pettersson, Price, Larkin, Stone, Eichel, Giroux, Barkov, J Hughes, Gaudreau, Kaprizov, and Barzal are all franchise players. It's not about quality of player, but you probably need a shit ton of talent to become the franchise player.