Discussion in 'Polls - (hockey-related only)' started by slapKing, May 13, 2021.
He came 2nd in Smythe votes. Hedman won it by a single vote over Point.
3rd best player after Hedman and Kucherov. Nobody thinks Point or any of these stars are some sort of parasite that can't win the cup.
For me, you've gotta be in the top tier of players in the league and THE best player on your team.
So I'm only going with Eichel/Barzal/Pasta/Aho.
Eichel is the only one that got my vote
Eichel for sure. Maybe Marner and Aho???
Scheifele, Aho, Stone and Eichel.
This was my first thought as well but we need to see a healthy Eichel so I picked none.
Then again the tag franchise player is extremely elite IMO and the only guy I would give it to right now is Connor.
True about Eichels health.
Connor is above franchise, he's generational.
So there’s no way Malkin, Toews/Kane, Drai, are franchise players, or ever were for that matter?
Well no. Crosby is the Pens franchise player. McDavid's is Edmonton's. For the Blackhawk's, it was Toews but I think Kane has taken the mantle
I guess we’ll just have to disagree with what a franchise level player is then. For me it doesn’t have to do with the luck of being on a team that has a better player. For example, Matthews is undoubtedly a franchise level player, if he goes to Edmonton or McDavid to TO, that won’t change the quality of player that he is
There is no "level" when debating franchise players - either you are the face of the franchise or you aren't. John Tavares was a franchise player in LI. He is not in Toronto. Pettersson, Price, Larkin, Stone, Eichel, Giroux, Barkov, J Hughes, Gaudreau, Kaprizov, and Barzal are all franchise players. It's not about quality of player, but you probably need a shit ton of talent to become the franchise player.
Debrincat and laine got the same amount of votes....hmmmm
Eichel and Pettersson
An in-form Laine is, but not now.
Well then we’re debating apples and oranges here as our definitions are totally different. Even the poster I was originally replying to was commenting about the “level” the player needed to be. But to each their own
Lots of good players on that list, but only one franchise player IMO......Eichel.
Maybe not Franchise, but i think Barzal has still hidden potential to go for another level as a player.
all but Laine and Debrincat
he would put up 80+ on most other teams
Eichel and Rantanen.
That's a flawed way of looking at it. Being the best player on a team doesn't automatically make a player a franchise player. A franchise player isn't just the best player on a team, it's the type of player you can actually build a winning team around.
Connor Garland isn't a franchise player just because he's arguably Arizona's best player because you're not going to be winning any championships if that's your best player and the guy who will have to lead you to that championship.
Eichel, Marner, Aho, Pastrnak
Eichel, Pettersson, Point.
I'd consider every franchise's players if I were a GM.
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