Worst case scenario and Sens tank again- what's the next step?

[Loach]

Lol man please never stop this shtick your commitment to it is amazing.

Funny how post 19 got ignored by him though eh?

 

[Micklebot]

Until we make a coaching change, the next step is a coaching change, it should have already happened but you can't pull the parachute and make drastic changes without doing that first.

So, if we're out of the playoffs come trade deadline, see where Tank is willing to go, if Kubalik is still here, trade him, but otherwise you play out the year.

 

[Dan Patrick]

I guess maybe this is also contingent on hiring a new GM but I would love if in the interim we also hired some more scouting (pro and amateur) staff. Seems like we are still very short staffed in those departments.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Wouldn't trade Batherson's contract unless some team massively overpays.
I know he hasn't been anywhere close to the player he was two seasons ago, but at that value it would be foolish to throw.

I'm trading Chychyrun if I want to get rid of a contract.

I'd gauge the market on Chabot if Chychrun's contract demands are less than $8 million and Chabot has good to great value around the league. I don't hate Chabot like others do, but if Chychrun wants to stay at somewhat of a discount, I would be open to the idea of moving Chabot to strengthen other parts of the team.

 

[2CHAINZ]

It's not a schtick. It's the facts.

The team is no better now than it ever has been under DJ. It looks better because we have played fewer games through November than in recent years. We currently have a projection of 6.8% to make the playoffs in a year where we acquired a number-one goalie and a top-4 defenseman in Chychrun. People are not overreacting; they are simply fed up with the offseason excitement and the team being dead by the end of November. Maybe you enjoy meaningless hockey, but some of us are tired of watching the Sens and hoping we draft the top five every single year.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

We don't need to have it. We're doing quite a bit better than last season at this point. People are just overreacting again.

Such an improvement.

November 29th last year we were 5th last on point percentage.

Now we are 8th last, and we all know Edmonton and Seattle are going to be passing us any time now, possibly Minnesota with their new coach bounce that they'll get too.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Such an improvement.

November 29th last year we were 5th last on point percentage.

Now we are 8th last, and we all know Edmonton and Seattle are going to be passing us any time now, possibly Minnesota with their new coach bounce that they'll get too.

Stop. You're overreacting.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Stop. You're overreacting.

Sorry 2Chainz, sorry DJ.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Sorry 2Chainz, sorry DJ.

You don't have to apologize to me; just apologize to Swiftwin and his daddy, Dj Smith.

 

[Loach]

Sorry 2Chainz, sorry DJ.

Sorry DJ chants when the team loses would be savage.

 

[Qward]

If they do tank, hopefully we can get Artyom Levshunov.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Sorry DJ chants when the team loses would be savage.

We should chant "we love DJ" all game. Maybe the players will play better. "Fire DJ" chants don't work, so we should try reverse psychology.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

We don't need to have it. We're doing quite a bit better than last season at this point. People are just overreacting again.

They have a losing record. Some may be overreacting, but it's definitely not good where they're at right now. You can't really believe all is well right now can you? One thing not to panic, but the team is indisputably in a bad spot.

 

[Big Muddy]

Such an improvement.

November 29th last year we were 5th last on point percentage.

Now we are 8th last, and we all know Edmonton and Seattle are going to be passing us any time now, possibly Minnesota with their new coach bounce that they'll get too.

Stop. You're overreacting.

Yep, we are exactly where we want to be - only 7 teams to leap frog. Piece of cake.

 

[swiftwin]

They have a losing record. Some may be overreacting, but it's definitely not good where they're at right now. You can't really believe all is well right now can you? One thing not to panic, but the team is indisputably in a bad spot.

Of course everything is not well. Why would anyone think that? All I'm saying is we don't need a full rebuild. There's a wide gulf between everything is fine and blow it all up / rebuild.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

The team is no better now than it ever has been under DJ. It looks better because we have played fewer games through November than in recent years. We currently have a projection of 6.8% to make the playoffs in a year where we acquired a number-one goalie and a top-4 defenseman in Chychrun. People are not overreacting; they are simply fed up with the offseason excitement and the team being dead by the end of November. Maybe you enjoy meaningless hockey, but some of us are tired of watching the Sens and hoping we draft the top five every single year.

Chabot's too important for the core imo

 

[branch]

You start trading core pieces away like Norris, Batherson, Chabot. Which I would right now btw. Hockey trades tho, not for futures.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Of course everything is not well. Why would anyone think that? All I'm saying is we don't need a full rebuild. There's a wide gulf between everything is fine and blow it all up / rebuild.

That's fair. Thought you were saying they're in a good spot. Yes, of course, it would be silly to rebuild and not worth real discussion.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

We haven't finished rebuilding is the point.

We suck. How can the rebuild be over.

 

[Big Muddy]

Of course everything is not well. Why would anyone think that? All I'm saying is we don't need a full rebuild. There's a wide gulf between everything is fine and blow it all up / rebuild.

That's fair. Thought you were saying they're in a good spot. Yes, of course, it would be silly to rebuild and not worth real discussion.

The term "rebuild" can mean different things to different people. The OP mentioned "rebuild", but we don't know what he meant by that. Maybe all he meant is moving one player (Chabot as an "example")?

 

[BondraTime]

@BondraTime

what is the analysis of the Meows Kid with the 67's.

6"- 6',1" RD..

some sites have him ranked 18th... Probably where the Sens will finish..

If not, maybe trade down. Package a large contract, with the Sens #1. Get a prospect and a pick in the 16-20 zone.

I’m definitely not the one to ask about Mews, haven’t seen him play outside of a game or two on TV over the past 2 years.

Lots of people here would have seen a lot of him with him playing in Ottawa, should be a be a large number of posters who’d have a much better idea than I would.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

The term "rebuild" can mean different things to different people. The OP mentioned OP, but we don't know what he meant by that. Maybe all he meant is moving one player (Chabot as an "example")?

For sure. I would argue they're using the incorrect term in that case as retool is more applicable and used in the hockey sphere to describe that scenario, but I hear ya.

I do think a bit of a retool is likely. My leading candidate would be Batherson.

 

[2CHAINZ]

You start trading core pieces away like Norris, Batherson, Chabot. Which I would right now btw. Hockey trades tho, not for futures.

You want to trade Norris and Batherson at the absolute bottom of their value? I'd gladly trade Norris if there was a market, but Batherson is a winger and on a good contract if he can get back to playing well. If you trade Batherson, then you are looking for a winger on a contract like Batherson.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

We should chant "we love DJ" all game. Maybe the players will play better. "Fire DJ" chants don't work, so we should try reverse psychology.

I dono, remember what “we want playoffs” did to this group? They imploded

 

[2CHAINZ]

I dono, remember what “we want playoffs” did to this group? They imploded

Yes, we are using reverse psychology. We need to chant "we don't want playoffs" and "we love DJ."