Worst case scenario and Sens tank again- what's the next step?

[senseimike]

Mentally preparing for the worst case scenario- say the team doesn't get out of its inconsistency issues, what happens? Does Staios start trading our top players for draft picks and we start another rebuild? Or is the general consensus that a few changes here and there (i.e. new coach, or whatever) and we'll be back in business next season?

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[Ice-Tray]

Mentally preparing for the worst case scenario- say the team doesn't get out of its inconsistency issues, what happens? Does Staios start trading our top players for draft picks and we start another rebuild? Or is the general consensus that a few changes here and there (i.e. new coach, or whatever) and we'll be back in business next season?

Hells no.

We trade expiring contracts like Tank and Kubalik to contenders, and maybe see if any peripheral guys generate interest.

The core stays, we draft high, get new staff from top to bottom, and then win the cup.

That’s how I see things play out if we flop.

 

[2CHAINZ]

We trade Tarasenko and Kubalik at the deadline. We either use our draft pick to draft a player or we use it along with other picks we acquired as capital in a trade for NHL ready talent. I will let the new GM decide what route to go with what's available and how much cap space we have combined with what UFAs are available. We hire a new coach and try again next year. We aren't blowing anything up.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

No matter what happens the next step is get a GM, then get a new coaching staff, then evaluate the roster and make some moves to shore up the issues.

Hopefully we get a new GM and a new coach late in the season to give them time to see the roster in action. If we have to wait for the offseason for a new GM and a new coach, we are going to have to wait a while longer for them to get the chance to evaluate everyone.

Barring a miracle, we are guaranteed a bottom 10 finish

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Wouldn't trade draft capital, mostly 1st round picks, for NHL ready talent.
Cap space is increasing and the team is shedding salary. If they want to add NHL talent they should do so through free agency.

 

[HF Reader]

If they won't hire a coach without a GM I doubt they make major trades without a GM.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Our play demonstrates we are less than the sum of our parts. New coach fixes this problem but the change may not be instantaneous. I think if we hire an experienced coach, known for their defensive rigidity, the players will have a lot to forget while trying to learn a new system.

This change needs to happen now. We cannot afford to be absolute shit this year only to make this change in the summer and have this process begin next training camp. If we bring in said coach and have this start how, everything will be in place for a competitive season next year.

The absolute worst case scenario is staying status quo and relieving DJ of his duties in the summer, simply because the solution isn't any different than it is right now. This solution obviously relies on us hiring a long term coach, as an interim coach likely becomes the new worst case scenario.

 

[BondraTime]

If we’re out, trade the expiring contracts.

Come summer, the core is shaken up when the new GM comes in.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I think they wait and see what a new coach and GM do with this core before making any major moves.

But I do think a core or core-adjacent piece could be moved to shake them up. Biggest name I'd see moving (that isn't a UFA to be or old geezer contract) would be Batherson. But that's still highly unlikely at this point.



But.......if things go bad next year and ownership and the GM/POHO decide this core isn't "It," then we might see a retool. But that's at least a good two years away. And if it does happen....we'll at least have a stable owner with a bit more flexibility regarding finances, and hopefully better than the clown show we had in management for the past few years. So, even if worst comes to worst, we're still in a better position than we were 6 years ago. We know the next house built will have a good foundation.

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

What's next? Sell your remaining tickets to the biggest sucker that you can find.

 

[GCK]

In the scenario posted

- Unload UFAs at deadline
- New GM and new coaching staff come in
- Back end is altered to bring in more size
- A gritty winger with experience is brought in

 

[senseimike]

This is all manageable, I think! Hopefully doesn't come to this but I just dread being the Sabres of the last 15 years lol

 

[TeamRenzo]

New coach and trade someone from the core

 

[Beech]

@BondraTime

what is the analysis of the Meows Kid with the 67's.

6"- 6',1" RD..

some sites have him ranked 18th... Probably where the Sens will finish..

If not, maybe trade down. Package a large contract, with the Sens #1. Get a prospect and a pick in the 16-20 zone.

 

[DueDiligence]

New GM. Then new .Then a few trades with some significant changes.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Trade UFA's for draft capital.

New GM, followed by Coach.

Draft players.

Player movement, likely involving one bigger salary to change things up. I'll guess Batherson.

Nothing groundbreaking.

 

[DaveMatthew]

You'd have to make a big decision on Chychrun (even if we don't tank we'll have to).

1) Does he want to re-sign?
2) How much money does he want (likey $8M+ for 7/8 years)
3) Does it make sense to commit $8M to another LD when you have Sanderson and Chabot?
4) If you sign him, do you move Chabot?

Depending on the answers to those questions, you may have to trade him at this upcoming draft.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

Really had hoped we'd make it out of November before we had this discussion.

 

[Loach]

Really had hoped we'd make it out of November before we had this discussion.

If we played the normal amount of games it would have started sooner. Lol

 

[swiftwin]

Really had hoped we'd make it out of November before we had this discussion.

We don't need to have it. We're doing quite a bit better than last season at this point. People are just overreacting again.

 

[2CHAINZ]

We don't need to have it. We're doing quite a bit better than last season at this point. People are just overreacting again.

Lol man please never stop this shtick your commitment to it is amazing.

 

[SensFactor]

Don't like having this discussion with only 17 games played but if we tank then my moves:
- Trade Kubalik
- Trade Tarasenko

Offseason:
- Trade Batherson
- Trade Brannstrom
- Find stay at home RD, that is consistent and hard to play against
- Pinto extension

 

[dumbdick]

I feel like right now we're just in "cross your fingers mode".

We locked up the core. If it succeeds we might win a cup. If it doesn't we'll probably find ourselves as a bubble team for quite some time.

But the course is set and the rockets fired. All we can do is hang on now.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Wouldn't trade Batherson's contract unless some team massively overpays.
I know he hasn't been anywhere close to the player he was two seasons ago, but at that value it would be foolish to throw.

I'm trading Chychyrun if I want to get rid of a contract.

 

[swiftwin]

Lol man please never stop this shtick your commitment to it is amazing.

It's not a schtick. It's the facts.