Prospect Info: With the #63 pick, the Wild select (C) Jack McBain (NCAA, Boston College)

[ThatGuy22]

It's basically going to come down to whether or not the Wild are willing to burn a year of his ELC i'm sure.

If they are, he'll sign and only basically have one year until he's an RFA. If he doesn't, he'll have two.

Makes the choice pretty easy at that point.

 

[Wabit]

It's basically going to come down to whether or not the Wild are willing to burn a year of his ELC i'm sure.

If they are, he'll sign and only basically have one year until he's an RFA. If he doesn't, he'll have two.

Makes the choice pretty easy at that point.

It won't matter either way. His 2nd contact would be for the '24-'25 seasonThis season he would be as a 21 year old (3 year ELC with this being year 1). If he signs as free agent this offseason he would be a 22 year old (2 year ELC).

NHL CBA FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Players younger than 25 years of age as of September 15 during the year of their first NHL contract must sign an entry-level contract which have set limitations - all entry-level contracts are two-way contracts and the maximum allowable salary for players drafted until 2022 is $925,000.

The length of the entry-level contract is also dependent on the player’s age:

• 18-21 years of age: 3 years
• 22-23 years of age: 2 years
• 24 years of age: 1 year

 

[barriers]

I believe Wabit is correct. I think if McBain were born a week earlier, he turned 22 yesterday, this would count as his 22 years of age year but since since was 21 on Jan 1st a contract for this season is his 21 years of age year and he can only sign a 3 year ELC.

If I'm mistaken please let me know, I'm not positive by any means.

 

[ThatGuy22]

It won't matter either way. His 2nd contact would be for the '24-'25 seasonThis season he would be as a 21 year old (3 year ELC with this being year 1). If he signs as free agent this offseason he would be a 22 year old (2 year ELC).

NHL CBA FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

I believe Wabit is correct. I think if McBain were born a week earlier, he turned 22 yesterday, this would count as his 22 years of age year but since since was 21 on Jan 1st a contract for this season is his 21 years of age year and he can only sign a 3 year ELC.

If I'm mistaken please let me know, I'm not positive by any means.

You're both incorrect.

Signing age is funky. Its your age on September 15th on the calendar year you sign a contract.

Had McBain decided to leave college and sign on December 31st, 2021 his signing age would have been 21.

Had he decided to leave college and sign on January 1st, 2022 his signing age would have been 22.

So as of January 1st, his signing age is 22 and he'll have a 2 year ELC. The Wild will have an opportunity to burn one if they choose, which is a significant advantage no other team can offer.

See section 9.2 of the CBA

9.2 Age of Players. As used in this Article, "age," including "First SPC Signing Age," means a Player's age on September 15 of the calendar year in which he signs an SPC, regardless of his actual age on the date he signs such SPC.

 

[barriers]

The CBA often hurts my brain. Thank you for posting that, I appreciate your thoroughness.

 

[GuerinUp]

You're both incorrect.

Signing age is funky. Its your age on September 15th on the calendar year you sign a contract.

Had McBain decided to leave college and sign on December 31st, 2021 his signing age would have been 21.

Had he decided to leave college and sign on January 1st, 2022 his signing age would have been 22.

So as of January 1st, his signing age is 22 and he'll have a 2 year ELC. The Wild will have an opportunity to burn one if they choose, which is a significant advantage no other team can offer.

See section 9.2 of the CBA

So are you saying the wild could burn his first year and hell have a 1 yr ELC?

 

[ThatGuy22]

So are you saying the wild could burn his first year and hell have a 1 yr ELC?

I mean, technically it'll be a 2 year ELC. But the 1st year will only be a handful of games (whether in the AHL or NHL). Then the 2nd year of the ELC will be the 2022-2023 season, becoming an RFA in 2023 offseason.

If he doesn't sign, he has to wait until Aug 15th to sign his ELC, and can become an RFA only in the 2024 Offseason.

 

[GuerinUp]

I mean, technically it'll be a 2 year ELC. But the 1st year will only be a handful of games (whether in the AHL or NHL). Then the 2nd year of the ELC will be the 2022-2023 season, becoming an RFA in 2023 offseason.

If he doesn't sign, he has to wait until Aug 15th to sign his ELC, and can become an RFA only in the 2024 Offseason.

could actually be a good thing for the wild then. 1 year to prove a contract isnt going to get you 3mil a year typically.

 

[ThatGuy22]

could actually be a good thing for the wild then. 1 year to prove a contract isnt going to get you 3mil a year typically.

With no real downside to McBain. If he spends all year in the AHL his QO will be slightly more than he would have got on an ELC

 

[Prior]

The Wild didn’t want to burn a year off Boldy’s first NHL contract. And he’s was their best or second best prospect at the time. Not a certainty they would be willing to do so for McBain.

 

[Wabit]

The Wild didn’t want to burn a year off Boldy’s first NHL contract. And he’s was their best or second best prospect at the time. Not a certainty they would be willing to do so for McBain.

Boldy burned his 1st ELC year as soon as he signed last season.

 

[Prior]

Boldy burned his 1st ELC year as soon as he signed last season.

Right. And the Wild were trying to get him on a PTO which was nonsensical at the time.

 

[ThatGuy22]

The Wild didn’t want to burn a year off Boldy’s first NHL contract. And he’s was their best or second best prospect at the time. Not a certainty they would be willing to do so for McBain.

Certainly different situations, given Boldys options were back to college not UFA.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

I don’t think k the Wild will have any trouble signing McBain

 

[barriers]

 

[MuckOG]

Hot take: The Wild will sign McBain in time for the postseason and he will have an immediate impact ala another former Boston College player, Chris Kreider.

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Hot take: The Wild will sign McBain in time for the postseason and he will have an immediate impact ala another former Boston College player, Chris Kreider.

are we trading a current rostered player first?

 

[MuckOG]

are we trading a current rostered player first?

Maybe Greenway?

 

[57special]

I don’t think k the Wild will have any trouble signing McBain

Not if they are willing to burn a year. Which I would be OK with. I think the odds are slim that he will make the team next year, though he might get called up for a couple of games. The jump to the AHL alone is pretty big for a college player, never mind the jump to the NHL.

Speaking of C prospects, WTH is going on with Khovanov? The fact that he can't get playing time over Sucese, or that Nolan Stevens(out with covid/injured now, I think?)doesn't bode well for his future with us.

 

[MuckOG]

Not if they are willing to burn a year. Which I would be OK with. I think the odds are slim that he will make the team next year, though he might get called up for a couple of games. The jump to the AHL alone is pretty big for a college player, never mind the jump to the NHL.

Speaking of C prospects, WTH is going on with Khovanov? The fact that he can't get playing time over Sucese, or that Nolan Stevens(out with covid/injured now, I think?)doesn't bode well for his future with us.

I've already written off Khovanov as a legitimate prospect.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Not if they are willing to burn a year. Which I would be OK with. I think the odds are slim that he will make the team next year, though he might get called up for a couple of games. The jump to the AHL alone is pretty big for a college player, never mind the jump to the NHL.

Speaking of C prospects, WTH is going on with Khovanov? The fact that he can't get playing time over Sucese, or that Nolan Stevens(out with covid/injured now, I think?)doesn't bode well for his future with us.

Khovanov is done. He’s not willing to make the sacrifices needed to be a pro. Stick a fork in him

 

[57special]

Khovanov is done. He’s not willing to make the sacrifices needed to be a pro. Stick a fork in him

Sad. He showed promise, and in my brief viewings of him down in the AHL you could see talent.

 

[Puhis]

Congratulations Jack, named to the Canadian Olympic roster!

 

[thestonedkoala]

are we trading a current rostered player first?

Gaudreau is going to have a mysterious injury with someone named Rictor Vask

 

[TaLoN]

Hot take: The Wild will sign McBain in time for the postseason and he will have an immediate impact ala another former Boston College player, Chris Kreider.

Boldy should've been that player last playoffs.