You're right. He was our 1st overall pick, but it was 2nd round (two picks before Duncan Keith). I had forgotten that was a year we didn't have a 1st rounder.
With the 30th overall pick the New Jersey Devils have selected, John Quenneville!
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You're right. He was our 1st overall pick, but it was 2nd round (two picks before Duncan Keith). I had forgotten that was a year we didn't have a 1st rounder.
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When that one is Bob friggin' McKenzie it holds a lot more weight than what pretty much everyone else is saying.
B-Mac had him ranked 32, we took him at 30. Only three of Bob's top-30 didn't go in the actual top-30 (Barbashev, McKeown, Demko). 29 of Bob's top 32 were drafted today, Goldobin was the only "reach" at 37.
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Wait...
In slightly over a decade of drafting, our best picks at the forward position have all been guys with clear two-way ability.
Our worst picks have been skill guys who come up for a half-season at best and then off to another continent three seasons later.
...And people are mad that we're going with what we know has worked for us?
In slightly over a decade of drafting, our best picks at the forward position have all been guys with clear two-way ability.
Our worst picks have been skill guys who come up for a half-season at best and then off to another continent three seasons later.
...And people are mad that we're going with what we know has worked for us?
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I got bored and recorded his game log. I think I missed a game in there.. it's a pretty ****** excel sheet if anyone was interested in scoring trends. (G, A. +/-)
So pretty much, in conclusion there was no significant increased production throughout this year. It must have been from last season to this season exclusively. His 10 game splits were 9, 8, 14, 7, 10, 10 points respectively
So pretty much, in conclusion there was no significant increased production throughout this year. It must have been from last season to this season exclusively. His 10 game splits were 9, 8, 14, 7, 10, 10 points respectively
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Quennville isn't that bad, though!I was just making a point about our scouting team. I vividly remember the announcers and even the NHL staff running around trying to figure out who the Devils had just drafted, and was he even eligible. We probably could have gotten Kadeykin in the 7th round, but Lou/Conte picked him in the 1st!
My real point is that maybe we could have gotten Quennville at 41, but our staff don't take those chances. They select the player the want most. Hopefully we get a solid prospect at 41 and it doesn't backfire on us again.
Kadeykin was 2nd round and could be Conte's worst pick along with Foster and lance ward.
He was out of hockey 2 years later.
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I agree that he won't reach #41 and someone else would take him.
I just wish I knew what OTHER players that Conte has on that infamous "list" of his that he likes.
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How about sharifajanfjskfhsjdjwhatever back in 94?
I just pretend Elias was our first round pick in 94.
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I'm honestly scared that Lou said Conte really likes him.
I've seen that red faced big smile on the podium before, only to find out a few years later that he (Conte) was duped.
With that said, I like our pick right now and am excited for the next few rounds.
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Here's a better question :
Why has it worked for OTHER teams when it comes to drafting skill guys?
Devils Trap
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Here's a better question :
Why has it worked for OTHER teams when it comes to drafting skill guys?
The system... We cant have skilled guys here.. But atleast we acknowledge it and draft around it
But honestly we only had 1 killed draft pick, and it was Tedenby...
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“The thing I like about him is he’s a very similar player to Adam Henrique. I hate to talk like that, but he can play the game any way you want it played. He’s good offensively, good defensively and he knows how to play the game.”
That's enough for me. And if you think about it, that's exactly how LA won the cup.
That's enough for me. And if you think about it, that's exactly how LA won the cup.
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That is insanity. If to you "skill guys" means guys who do not understand how to play outside the offensive zone then yes they can't play here.
Is Elias not a skill guy? Was Peter Sykora not a skill guy? Was Scott Gomez not a skill guy? Was Alexander Mogilny not a skill guy? Is Zidlicky not a skill guy?
All these guys thrived here.
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I mean being a complete player doesn't mean you can't have skill. Some of our best draft picks were complete two way players. I think that term has become dirty for no reason. Zach plays both side of the ice, Zajac does, Elias, Henrique. They all have skill too. You can have both and we have drafted both.
You can play in ever zone and still be a positive on offense. Quenneville seems more along those lines.
You can play in ever zone and still be a positive on offense. Quenneville seems more along those lines.
La won cause they have guys that can score. Gaborik would be our best offensive player, on LA he's third
But Sharifjanov was one of the pieces that got us Mogilny. That alone makes it a decent pick IMO.
Emperoreddy
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LA was 26th in Goals for to our 27th. Kopitar their best player only had two more points then Jagr on the season. Kings won because they were tough as nails and opportunistic as hell, and they didn't really play strong defensive teams.
Kings have a TON of strengths...guys that can score really isn't one of them.
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Here's a better question :
Why has it worked for OTHER teams when it comes to drafting skill guys?
We're talking about winning the cup, right?
Mostly veteran-laden teams.
But look at the young forwards on recent cup winners that were not drafted in the top half of the first round.
The all-around game of those players (Saad, Pearson) is a lot more notable than their top-end skill.
They still have guys that can score, the playoffs indicate that for some reason they refuse to score in the regular season. What I'm saying is the talent is there. They are opportunistic but they also have guys that can finish.
I think people are more upset that the devils didn't try to reach for a guy who is known for his shooting ability and not his two way game
Emperoreddy
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I mean what type of team do you think is being built here? Lou isn't trying to make a Washington or Pitt type team. His current model is more along the lines of LA and Boston with some old school Devil's flair. Strong in net, strong blue line (that can skate) and strong complete forwards. They can forecheck, cycle, and make plays and score.
Lou wants more Zach's, Zajacs, and Henriques. Not so much Kovy's.
Lou wants more Zach's, Zajacs, and Henriques. Not so much Kovy's.
I'm not saying a bunch of kovys. Just a guy or two with a little more scoring touch than our typical zajac molds
Drafting defensemen and two-way forwards (which are just as important to winning games as flashy offensive forwards) is what this organization is good at. Do people expect them to suddenly reinvent themselves?
