With the 30th overall pick the New Jersey Devils have selected, John Quenneville!

[BrodeursCups]

Is that part of the equation as well?

This pick is viewed negatively here only because we overlooked him prior to the draft. I think that's what this boils down to.

Warranted or not, I get all tingly inside when players have a nonstop motor and are relentless on the forecheck. Lou and a lot of analysts have compared him to Henrique. He's 6'2" 185 - Imagine when he fills out that frame. Love the pick...

 

[R8Devs]

guy is pretty big for a 18 year old...maybe comes into the NHL at 20/21 years old.


The more I read about him, the more I like the pick.

Corey Pronman @coreypronman · 1h
NJ select Quenneville (my rank: 42), sees the ice well, above-average skill and works hard in all ends. His skating needs to improve.

 

[Carl33]

maybe not a bad pick but...i think they shouldn't pass on barbachev...he is way beter offensively, l saw barbachev play a couple of games...not qenneville...

Barbashev had 68pts in 48G

Quenneville 58pts in 61G

the offensive upside doesnt appear too close atm. we'll see I guess]

quenneville not hat ppg....barbachev on a 61 games would had 86 points

EDIT ok i sean the " doesnt" appear to clore after, sorry, my bad!


I think if devils had drafted barbashev at 30, it would have benn like they didn't had a penality for the kovalchuk contract beacause barbashev was ranked between 15-20 on most list...i think they miss the boat, but who know...

sorry for my english

 

[Tretyak 20]

Not a bad pick - don't love it, don't hate it. I do think it's something of a safe pick, and maybe we could have added more dynamic skill. But I'll take it and hope Lou/Conte swing for the fences a bit with pick 41. Maybe Karabacek, or maybe Karlsson is still there?

Ok pick - at least he isn't another defenseman.

 

[Bologna 1]

get some skill at 41 and i can live with this pick i suppose. would like kamenev but id be willing to guarantee they wouldnt take him if he is still on the board.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 2m
Lamoriello called John Quenneville "an Adam Henrique type of player. He can play in all situations."

So he scores goals that end the Rangers season? I can live with that.

Corey Pronman @coreypronman ·
NJ select Quenneville (my rank: 42), sees the ice well, above-average skill and works hard in all ends. His skating needs to improve.

David Clarkson with "above-average skill" - fine with me.

 

[Emperoreddy]

What I like most about him aside from his supposed above average skill and work ethic is, he apparantly has high hockey sense.

That is important to me.
Too many of our players last year were not blesed withmuch hockey sense/savy.

Tedenby did not have any to speak of, the main reason why he's in the KHL.

I agree and it seems every scout says that about him. He has a high hockey IQ. Tie that in with size, work ethic and a good amount of natural skill and you could have a very good player here.

Not saying it will happen, but one of Elias' best traits is his hockey IQ. What makes him as great as he is.

 

[Emperoreddy]

So he scores goals that end the Rangers season? I can live with that.



So David Clarkson with "above-average skill" - fine with me.

A smarter Clarkson it sounds like that can play center. Even more fine with that.

 

[glenwo2]

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 2m
Lamoriello called John Quenneville "an Adam Henrique type of player. He can play in all situations."

He better hope he turns into Adam Henrique then.

 

[Tretyak 20]

Warranted or not, I get all tingly inside when players have a nonstop motor ...

My only worry is - is it a non-stop motor attached to a two-speed transmission! That could mean the difference between a 2nd and a 3rd liner.

 

[NJD1982]

He better hope he turns into Adam Henrique then.

Henrique was a third round pick, remember that. If JQ follows the same trajectory Henrique did then we are gonna have a very good player in a few years.

 

[glenwo2]

So he scores goals that end the Rangers season? I can live with that.



David Clarkson with "above-average skill" - fine with me.

Afro disagrees. He says that Brendan Lemieux is David Clarkson with "above-average skill".



Seriously, though. I can get behind another Adam Henrique. But this team needs more skill(translation : goal-scorers) to be had in the pipeline down the road and they still haven't addressed that. Maybe they might trade up and address that tomorrow but as of tonight, they saw Adam Henrique : The Sequel and drafted him apparently.

The more i think about this first round the more and more angry i get, we should have had #11 with that we could have gotten Perlini, Milano, Larkin, Fiala, but we don't have the pick and have #30 and we could have had Lemieux or Barbashev, but no.

Quenneville the average skating two way center that is at best a good second line center rather than Lemieux or Barbashev who at best are 1st liners. one being a power forward with grit, thr other being a highly skilled leader with good IQ

DA, I was raging along with you. But it is what it is.

Lou wants a Devils team full of Adam Henriques(which isn't a bad thing, mind you).

 

[Emperoreddy]

Afro disagrees. He says that Brendan Lemieux is David Clarkson with "above-average skill".



Seriously, though. I can get behind another Adam Henrique. But this team needs more skill(translation : goal-scorers) to be had in the pipeline down the road and they still haven't addressed that. Maybe they might trade up and address that tomorrow but as of tonight, they saw Adam Henrique : The Sequel and drafted him apparently.




DA, I was raging along with you. But it is what it is.

Lou wants a Devils team full of Adam Henriques(which isn't a bad thing, mind you).

You need Henrique type players though, and we need smart playmakers who can also score especially with Elias getting on in years. Kid can play center which we need, but also plays LW. Makes it easier to eventually slot Henrique to LW if we want.

Kings just won a cup with this kind of talent. Lou wants a team like Boston and LA, we are just still building it.

And I am not underestimating Brenden. I would of definitely been happy with him and hope we can somehow still get him tomorrow morning. I think some people are underestimating Quenneville here. This kid has the potential to be good too.

 

[NHL Fanatik*]

Don't know how I feel about this.

If he pans out, and elevates his game as much as Henrique did his... we are going to have a 2C, close to 1C, who is young and fits our style.

But that's me being optimistic.

 

[NHL Fanatik*]

You need Henrique type players though, and we need smart playmakers who can also score especially with Elias getting on in years. Kid can play center which we need, but also plays LW. Makes it easier to eventually slot Henrique to LW if we want.

Kings just won a cup with this kind of talent. Lou wants a team like Boston and LA, we are just still building it.

And I am not underestimating Brenden. I would of definitely been happy with him and hope we can somehow still get him tomorrow morning. I think some people are underestimating Quenneville here. This kid has the potential to be good too.

I agree with this statement.

 

[Devils Army]

You need Henrique type players though, and we need smart playmakers who can also score especially with Elias getting on in years. Kid can play center which we need, but also plays LW. Makes it easier to eventually slot Henrique to LW if we want.

Kings just won a cup with this kind of talent. Lou wants a team like Boston and LA, we are just still building it.

And I am not underestimating Brenden. I would of definitely been happy with him and hope we can somehow still get him tomorrow morning. I think some people are underestimating Quenneville here. This kid has the potential to be good too.

Of course we are trying to build that type of team but Barb and Lemieux both fit into that equation with more talent

edit: Just realized why Conte took Quenn over Lemieux, the CSS rankings... but still don't understand not taking Barb

 

[JimEIV]

I'm sorry this was s reach...you have one service that his ranked 31 and 4 others that have him around 40... do the aggregate. This was a player that should've been a second rounder.

 

[NHL Fanatik*]

This is how I look at it...

We made a safe pick with the 30th overall, which we weren't even supposed to have anyway after the situation. So, I'll take it.

Still an entire off-season to go.

 

[NJDevs26]

I'm sorry this was s reach...you have one service that his ranked 31 and 4 others that have him around 40... do the aggregate. This was a player that should've been a second rounder.

How much of a reach is it really considering our next pick isn't until just after 40? If they felt the player was the best on their board and he was projected to go by the next pick then you'd better get him at 31. Or roll the dice and trade back a bit but sometimes that can backfire too, especially when the draft spot and projected rank are that close.

Sometimes we get too wrapped up in worrying about perceived value anyway. McKenzie himself said after 10 there were a bunch of guys in the top sixty that could have gone in the first round. The shock was that the first round actually stayed on rank for the most part.

 

[Emperoreddy]

How much of a reach is it really considering our next pick isn't until just after 40? If they felt the player was the best on their board and he was projected to go by the next pick then you'd better get him at 31. Or roll the dice and trade back a bit but sometimes that can backfire too, especially when the draft spot and projected rank are that close.

Sometimes we get too wrapped up in worrying about perceived value anyway. McKenzie himself said after 10 there were a bunch of guys in the top sixty that could have gone in the first round. The shock was that the first round actually stayed on rank for the most part.

I agree. I think they said no one was picked outside of TSNs top 40. There was no true reach this round IMO.

 

[Devils Dominion]

He better hope he turns into Adam Henrique then.

Not to be a wet blanket but Lou also once compared Pelley to John Madden.

 

[Tretyak 20]

I'm sorry this was s reach...you have one service that his ranked 31 and 4 others that have him around 40... do the aggregate. This was a player that should've been a second rounder.

Lou/Conte have shown in the past that once they have "their guy" selected - they don't care what round he's likely to go in. They'll take a player multiple rounds early if it's the guy they want. Remember Anton Kadeykin?

 

[JimEIV]

How much of a reach is it really considering our next pick isn't until just after 40? If they felt the player was the best on their board and he was projected to go by the next pick then you'd better get him at 31. Or roll the dice and trade back a bit but sometimes that can backfire too, especially when the draft spot and projected rank are that close.

Sometimes we get too wrapped up in worrying about perceived value anyway. McKenzie himself said after 10 there were a bunch of guys in the top sixty that could have gone in the first round. The shock was that the first round actually stayed on rank for the most part.

It's a pretty big deal if 3 better players get taken from 31 to 40...isn't it?

 

[Emperoreddy]

Not to be a wet blanket but Lou also once compared Pelley to John Madden.

Luckily Lou isn't the only one making those comparisons.

 

[Devils Dominion]

A talented forward who can score and create offense, Quenneville took big steps forward this season after posting eight goals and 19 points in 47 games as a 16-year-old rookie in 2012-13. At 6’1”, 186-lbs, and with room to grown and get stronger, Quenneville has the size to attract NHL scouts’ attention. Quenneville uses his big frame and his strength effectively in protecting the puck and playing a physical game. Perhaps his best assets are his puck skills, his offensive acumen, and his work ethic. He has the skill to control the puck in the offensive zone, and distribute the puck quickly and effectively, and also boasts a good shot. A good skater with strong balance, Quenneville also has a no-quit work ethic that helps him win puck battles.

“He’s a big, solid centerman who is real good in the offensive zone,” said Wheat Kings’ head coach and general manager Kelly McCrimmon. “His skill with the puck is very good, and he sees the ice very well…he’s a tough guy to play against with his size and his ability to protect the puck, and he’s got a really good shot.”

What has most impressed McCrimmon about Quenneville is his desire to play the game and his desire to keep improving. Quenneville’s game, says McCrimmon, has come a long way from where it was when he made his WHL debut at 16. McCrimmon says that has also gotten the attention of NHL scouts, who see plenty of room for Quenneville to grow, learn and develop.

“He definitely made great strides in his development this season,” said McCrimmon. “He got better as this season when on and he became one of our top scorers, which I know has made an impression.”