Winning streak ends. Habs lose 4 - 2

[Smokey Thompson]

Everyone looked off in this game. Even my beloved Price, I must admit, didn't look like he was in the game most of the night. Seems like a standard "return from a long road trip" syndrome.

Agreed. Whenever he looks somewhat "off", you just know the night won't end well for the team lol.

 

[Teufelsdreck]

Was Subban drunk tonite?

Or is it still a case of Tampa(Yzerman)/Detroit(Babcock) over-compensation where he tries to do too much to 'show them'

He's played very well lately but many WTF moments watching this one - careless giveaway on the PP with a weakass back check - almost a goal, fancy jr move over the blue line - turnover, dumb penalty from the bench - goal, bad pinch and then stops to pick up his stick - goal

I'll get in trouble for not waiving my pom-poms cause we were due for a loss but this is a game we could've won

Could have won? Theoretically possible, but the Habs were dominated so badly in the 2nd period that I more or less gave up on their winning. The Habs are better than most teams, including the Bruins, but not the Lightning.

 

[FF de Mars]

Maybe I'm wrong, but the Lightning reminds me of the 2007-2008 Habs, relying majorly on the PP, along with a small talented team. They might take the division, but our Habs seem grittier, better defensively, and we have Carey Price 3.1. I don't expect us to sweep them again, but I think our team is better fitted for the playoffs.

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

Maybe I'm wrong, but the Lightning reminds me of the 2007-2008 Habs, relying majorly on the PP, along with a small talented team. They might take the division, but our Habs seem grittier, better defensively, and we have Carey Price 3.1. I don't expect us to sweep them again, but I think our team is better fitted for the playoffs.

I see some comparisons. Our team has to play like the grittiest team of the two though, which sure wasn't the case yesterday.

 

[Chacal667]

right now, as we speak, on paper, the lightning is a much better team than us. They corrected their defense by the addition of stralman and garrison, they have plenty of young prospect that play extremely well in offence with palat, kucherov, drouin, johnson, killorn, they have great vets in filpula and callahan, they have one of the best player in the world in stamkos and they have a very good goalie in Bishop....

On paper we just can't compete with all the talent they have, the only way we can beat them is by player a very structured defensive gameplan.

I hope you guys, habs fan, see the big gap difference between the two team in term of high end talent, I know some of us believe that we have a team to compete with any team in the league, but the only way it can be true is if Price goal on his head and with a gameplan that limited the mistake and that is defensevely oriented, .

 

[Kriss E]

Maybe I'm wrong, but the Lightning reminds me of the 2007-2008 Habs, relying majorly on the PP, along with a small talented team. They might take the division, but our Habs seem grittier, better defensively, and we have Carey Price 3.1. I don't expect us to sweep them again, but I think our team is better fitted for the playoffs.

You are wrong
The 07-08 Habs were top of the league on the PP and their 5 on 5 scoring ratio was just over 1.00 putting them in the middle of the league. The Bolts this year are middle of the pack on the PP, and they are 2nd at 5 on 5 scoring ratio. They also lead the league in goals at 5 on 5.
So no, they're not a PP specialist team.

That being said, I agree, I would favor us over them in the POs. Obviously though, I'm slightly biased.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Could have won? Theoretically possible, but the Habs were dominated so badly in the 2nd period that I more or less gave up on their winning. The Habs are better than most teams, including the Bruins, but not the Lightning.

We lost 4-2 with possibly Subbans worst full game in the NHL cause he would've been benched prior to this year, if he plays even a normal game we have a good chance of winning and Price had a semi-off night which didn't help

We are dominated many games and come out on top, we can beat the Bolts

 

[missthenet]

Agreed. Whenever he looks somewhat "off", you just know the night won't end well for the team lol.

Was not the fault of Carey Price last night. Everything about the habs that was a problem last year is still a problem this year. Stupid penalties against the number one offensive team in the league and then there is our feared power play. pulled the goalie plus a pp and still could not score. no forcheck, no bodychecks. And Mt should of called a timeout after the second goal cause we could not get out of our own end and that was true for most of the night. We do not and will not win any games against Tampa. They do one thing very well that we do not and that is never give up on the puck and they are all around the net and we had no answer for that.

 

[Nynja*]

What is your point? Cooper is a idiot for not playing Drouin more when he is their best PP guy and Stamkos was invisible?

My point is you put your scoring threats on the powerplay, NOT your BFFAEAEAE's.

 

[Habsawce]

It's 1 game after a 6 game winning streak in which one game they completely outclassed Pittsburgh. I can be as negative as the next guy but some of you's are absolutely ridiculous and embarrassing.

 

[Hoople]

The Habs have to understand they won't beat the Lightning by outskating them. They'll do so by slowing them down and bringing the body on them every single shift. Johnson needs to be checked often. He needs to feel the pain in the corners. Likewise for Stamkos and others.

Whether people like it or not, we have to play a better grinding game to get past them.

Incredibly, the Lightning outhit the Habs 22-14 last night.

This team is too soft top to bottom to play the rough grinding game against the "rugged" Lightning. And that is sad.

There were 10 Habs players who did not register a hit last night. Five Habs players had only one hit. Weise had 4, Emelin 3 and Galchenyuk 2.

 

[Teufelsdreck]

We lost 4-2 with possibly Subbans worst full game in the NHL cause he would've been benched prior to this year, if he plays even a normal game we have a good chance of winning and Price had a semi-off night which didn't help

We are dominated many games and come out on top, we can beat the Bolts

But they lost, so to say "we can beat the Bolts" rings hollow. Do you remeber the 7-1 drubbing in October? Do you also think the Habs could have won that game? The Bolts played better than the Habs AND DOMINATED THEM IN THE 2ND PERIOD. The Bolts have improved their D with the addition of Stralman and Garrison and they have Johnson and Drouin in addition to Stamkos and the others. Wake up and smell the coffee! The Habs are the 2nd best team in the Atlantic division.

 

[Lebowski]

Couldn't muster the courage to watch the third period.

Terrible, terrible showing. Onto the next one.

 

[TRG]

Wow the Subban Witch Hunt in full force on 98.5FM. If only they were using facts to back their ******** up.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

But they lost, so to say "we can beat the Bolts" rings hollow. Do you remeber the 7-1 drubbing in October? Do you also think the Habs could have won that game? The Bolts played better than the Habs AND DOMINATED THEM IN THE 2ND PERIOD. The Bolts have improved their D with the addition of Stralman and Garrison and they have Johnson and Drouin in addition to Stamkos and the others. Wake up and smell the coffee! The Habs are the 2nd best team in the Atlantic division.

The Bolts are a very strong team, we had zero chance in the 7-1 game but when you only lose by 2 goals and your best d-man arguably cost you those 2 goals the game is up for grabs. Tampa is not out of our league as you are suggesting

 

[Team_Spirit]

Wow the Subban Witch Hunt in full force on 98.5FM. If only they were using facts to back their ******** up.

Same on RDS....****ing insane.

Sure he was brutal out there but the PK Bash fest is really over the top.

 

[TRG]

Same on RDS....****ing insane.

Sure he was brutal out there but the PK Bash fest is really over the top.

Every time I hear that ********** Mario Tremblay, it's to bash Subban. **** you Mario, your ego ruined the franchise and you're trying to give lessons now? Just **** off.

 

[CupInSIX]

Every time I hear that ********** Mario Tremblay, it's to bash Subban. **** you Mario, your ego ruined the franchise and you're trying to give lessons now? Just **** off.

I will never forgive him for running Brashear out of town. Never!!

 

[MasterDecoy]

Failing to generate 10 shots for in any period is not a recipe for success.

Heres the difference between a good coach and a bad coach.

TB PP TOI:
S. Stamkos 6:17
T. Johnso 5:39
N. Kucherov 5:04
A. Stralman 4:58
O. Palat 4:19
R. Callahan 3:10
V. Filppula 2:37
J. Drouin 2:20

MTL PP TOI:
P. Subban 4:44
A. Markov 3:51
D. Desharnais 3:19
T. Plekanec 3:08
M. Pacioretty 2:58
S. Andrighetto 2:37
A. Galchenyuk 2:32
B. Gallagher 2:26

switch the teams, switch the score, then you'd be complaining that drouin had less ice time than callahan and filpula.

 

[groovejuice]

switch the teams, switch the score, then you'd be complaining that drouin had less ice time than callahan and filpula.

Plain and simple you can't have players on the PP who don't shoot and can't score.

 

[Nynja*]

switch the teams, switch the score, then you'd be complaining that drouin had less ice time than callahan and filpula.

Cool story bro.
Meanwhile Cooper is all like "ive got a couple problems, but the PP aint one", so no im not gonna bother switchin the teams.

 

[MasterDecoy]

Cool story bro.
Meanwhile Cooper is all like "ive got a couple problems, but the PP aint one", so no im not gonna bother switchin the teams.

these ****ers got talent. more than us anyways

anyways, to me, the PP problems are not one of personnel, they are systematic. pointing at dd's ice time is besides the point

 

[Kimota]

The Habs have to understand they won't beat the Lightning by outskating them. They'll do so by slowing them down and bringing the body on them every single shift. Johnson needs to be checked often. He needs to feel the pain in the corners. Likewise for Stamkos and others.

Whether people like it or not, we have to play a better grinding game to get past them.

You can forget about that. The Habs are just not that team this year. They are soft as butter and even Prust doesn't hit anymore(probably afraid of getting injured).

I don't know what happened that they suddenly stopped hitting, Therrien probably told them to stop hitting. That is why I compared his obsession with his defensive system to Jacques Martin.

 

[rafal majka]

Maybe I'm wrong, but the Lightning reminds me of the 2007-2008 Habs, relying majorly on the PP, along with a small talented team.

Looks like you're wrong. The 2007-08 Habs had brutal fundamentals. 5-on-5 they were near the League bottom in SF%, middle of the pack in GF% and were, again, near the League bottom in Fenwick Close.

The TBL of 2014-15 are first in 5-on-5 SF%, second in GF% and second in Fenwick Close. (And TB is sitting middle of the pack in PP GF/60)

Therrien had the Habs playing a good possession game with lots of success in 2012-13. I prefer that Therrien to the current version.

 

[Nynja*]

these ****ers got talent. more than us anyways

anyways, to me, the PP problems are not one of personnel, they are systematic. pointing at dd's ice time is besides the point

No, its not, it is the point because theres no reason DD should have highest PPTOI among forwards, at all, ever.