Wings take LW Cross Hanas at 55th

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Wait, you expect people around here to actually watch the prospects they are talking about? I think you are on the wrong board.

Crazy, right?

I'd expect that at least a few people here watch the totally legitimate feeds to keep an eye on our players here.

 

[kliq]

How come we just drafted Hanas in 2020, but we are going to loose his right in June 2022. That feels very fast to loose a player's rights.

 

[Henkka]

How come we just drafted Hanas in 2020, but we are going to loose his right in June 2022. That feels very fast to loose a player's rights.

That's the system when drafting players from Canadian juniors.

 

[kliq]

That's the system when drafting players from Canadian juniors.

So if you draft from the CHL, you hold the players rights for 2 years? I ask this sincerely, I don't mean this in a snarky way whatsoever.

 

[Revenge of Gru]

Cool name. Probably 2nd ballot hall of famer.

 

[Konnan511]

Nevermind

 

[Gniwder]

So if you draft from the CHL, you hold the players rights for 2 years? I ask this sincerely, I don't mean this in a snarky way whatsoever.

Yes, 2 years for CHL and 4 for Europe and college. If the players leaves the CHL before age 20 then the club gets 4 years if the kid was 18 at the draft or 3 years if 19.

It's on page 17 of the CBA (The page numbered 17, not page 17 of the pdf)
Collective Bargaining Agreement

 

[JustJokinenAround]

he did the thing

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Does this mean he is going to be as good as Zegras now?

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

he did the thing

That's a pretty great example of why Zegras's goal was fun to see but overhyped.

 

[lilidk]

Does this mean he is going to be as good as Zegras now?

He has skills , everything else we will see

 

[JustJokinenAround]

Does this mean he is going to be as good as Zegras now?

obivously

 

[JustJokinenAround]

That's a pretty great example of why Zegras's goal was fun to see but overhyped.

it was good but mikhail grabovski almost did it by himself, he didn't need help

 

[izlez]

That's a pretty great example of why Zegras's goal was fun to see but overhyped.

Because it altered how players all over the world play the game going forward?

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Feet, feet, feet.

 

[lilidk]

Feet, feet, feet.

19,19,19

 

[lilidk]

Is he even going to be NHL player, I don't know , but if you watch 19 year old Panarin video you whoud never believe he is going to play in NHL

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

19,19,19

Regardless of his age, he needs to significantly improve his skating and needs to be more engaged without the puck. His puck skill alone won't get him as far as he needs to get.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Because it altered how players all over the world play the game going forward?

Thanks for proving my point.

 

[jaster]

That's a pretty great example of why Zegras's goal was fun to see but overhyped.

I assume the argument here is that if 19 year olds can pull it off, it's less impressive when older kids (like 20yo Zegras) pull it off? I would rebut that by saying the flipside holds far more water. That is, the speed of the NHL, the lack of time and space, the more dominant defense... makes it far more difficult to pull off in the NHL. The thing that was most impressive about the Zegras goal was never the skill, per se, required to do it, but the conditions under which he pulled it off (i.e. against NHL competition). Hanas pulled it off against guys who will be in beer league in 8 years.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I assume the argument here is that if 19 year olds can pull it off, it's less impressive when older kids (like 20yo Zegras) pull it off? I would rebut that by saying the flipside holds far more water. That is, the speed of the NHL, the lack of time and space, the more dominant defense... makes it far more difficult to pull off in the NHL. The thing that was most impressive about the Zegras goal was never the skill, per se, required to do it, but the conditions under which he pulled it off (i.e. against NHL competition). Hanas pulled it off against guys who will be in beer league in 8 years.

I don't disagree but I think it also required some pretty poor defense.

Don't get me wrong it's a fun play just like the lacrosse goal is. But it's not the game changer some people made it out to be at the time.

People reacted similarly to the lacrosse goal but it's not like that revolutionized the game.

 

[jaster]

I don't disagree but I think it also required some pretty poor defense.

Don't get me wrong it's a fun play just like the lacrosse goal is. But it's not the game changer some people made it out to be at the time.

People reacted similarly to the lacrosse goal but it's not like that revolutionized the game.

Honestly, the couple days after that happened were super busy for me and I wasn't very plugged in, here or on any other hockey social media or on tv. So I'm largely unaware of exactly how hyped this got and I may be misreading the responses to that hype.

I certainly don't think it'll revolutionize the game, and I agree that the defense has to be a bit porous there (meaning it certainly wouldn't work in any situation). But I think Zegras should be commended for the creativity there (which is the aspect of it that is most exciting to me, in terms of how it may "affect" the game), and for recognizing that there was an opening. We've seen guys try the Michigan goal and utterly fail because the opening wasn't there, so I think when guys apply this kinda skill and creativity, and recognize when it can succeed and then execute it... it's pretty special. Being the first one to do adds some pizazz as well of course.

It's something that can be easily overhyped though, to be sure.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Honestly, the couple days after that happened were super busy for me and I wasn't very plugged in, here or on any other hockey social media or on tv. So I'm largely unaware of exactly how hyped this got and I may be misreading the responses to that hype.

I certainly don't think it'll revolutionize the game, and I agree that the defense has to be a bit porous there (meaning it certainly wouldn't work in any situation). But I think Zegras should be commended for the creativity there (which is the aspect of it that is most exciting to me, in terms of how it may "affect" the game), and for recognizing that there was an opening. We've seen guys try the Michigan goal and utterly fail because the opening wasn't there, so I think when guys apply this kinda skill and creativity, and recognize when it can succeed and then execute it... it's pretty special. Being the first one to do adds some pizazz as well of course.

It's something that can be easily overhyped though, to be sure.

yeah I think we're in agreement. I think it was Kevin Weekes who was pretty hyperbolic about it, as was a lot of the reaction here unsurprisingly.

I think it was a fun goal and kudos to the guy for trying it. I guess I considered it a great highlight goal but some people made it sound like he had landed on the moon.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Personally, I'm just happy he's producing.

 

[Nut Upstrom]

Pretty goal and set up, if I were the other team all the giggling on the bench would have bought them both a couple of cross checks and elbows, but that's assuming that Buffalo players actually give a damn.