Confirmed with Link: Wings sign Weiss 5 yrs 4.9m/yr (Conf Post #197 & #1 Updated))

[RedWingsNow*]

Considering the Wings PP sucks, this is OK with me.

You missed the point.

These guys aren't "special" on the PP.
They're just on it -- Hence their production

 

[Hendricks433]

Ah well -- another season of sliding toward mediocrity

Brunner >>> Alfredsson

Whaatttt?

 

[last_sd]

Ah well -- another season of sliding toward mediocrity

FLip >>> Weiss
Brunner >>> Alfredsson

Homer glass much? Or your way of using > is way different than others.
>>> usually means much better/not in same class.

 

[cupforwings09]

Ah well -- another season of sliding toward mediocrity

FLip >>> Weiss
Brunner >>> Alfredsson

Lol, I was thinking the opposite actually. Both will improve our team. Not to mention Tatar, Nyquist and Andersson will actually be playing all year.

 

[RedWingsNow*]

No he isn't. Fil is much more physically gifted, I agree. But Weiss has put up comparable numbers and woeful Florida teams and much, much less inconsistent.

Fil is a good playmaker and good two-way forward, and it sucks he's leaving but Weiss has a much better on-ice mentality.

He's played top line, first unit PP minutes.

Playing top line minutes on bad teams has NEVER been bad for production.

Think Ray Whitney/.

Anyone who expects Weiss to score 25 goals and 60 points without first unit PP minutes is in for a terrible shock

 

[RedWingsNow*]

Lol, I was thinking the opposite actually. Both will improve our team. Not to mention Tatar, Nyquist and Andersson will actually be playing all year.

Not to mention, the players that matter most -- are another year older (Datsyuk and Zetterberg) and further away from their prime

 

[Shoalzie]

If Weiss signs, no way does Cleary, Flip or Brunner return. This roster might be set after this move...have to believe all other lineup holes will be filled internally (ie--Tatar).

 

[last_sd]

If Weiss signs, no way does Cleary, Flip or Brunner return. This roster might be set after this move...have to believe all other lineup holes will be filled internally (ie--Tatar).

If we don't sign Cleary, I am happy.

 

[Vladdy84]

If we don't sign Cleary, I am happy.

This.

 

[RedWingsNow*]

If Weiss signs, no way does Cleary, Flip or Brunner return. This roster might be set after this move...have to believe all other lineup holes will be filled internally (ie--Tatar).

Agreed:
So what are we looking at? Signing Weiss probably means D+Z

Zetterbeg Datsyuk Bertuzzi
Franzen Weiss Alfredsson
Abdelkader Helm Miller
Nyquist Andersson Tatar

Sammy/Tootoo/Eaves/Emmerton

We still need to cut two guys

 

[odin1981]

Really scared we are going after him. He is definately not worth 5+ million. and if reports are correct he is seeking 5+ years.

I believe it would be easier to get a center next year than this. And the quality of centers hopefully will be much better (2nd line wise no chance #1 center hits fa).

 

[WingedWheel1987]

He is definitely an upgrade over Flip.

 

[mindfly]

He is definitely an upgrade over Flip.

I think it's more likely status quo, atleast it's not worse...

 

[last_sd]

Agreed:
So what are we looking at? Signing Weiss probably means D+Z

Zetterbeg Datsyuk Bertuzzi
Franzen Weiss Alfredsson
Abdelkader Helm Miller
Nyquist Andersson Tatar

Sammy/Tootoo/Eaves/Emmerton

We still need to cut two guys

Emmerton is easy one. He will be there until Helm comes back than probably waived.
Second one might also depend on injury. If Bert/Sammy is injured we don't have to move any one. If they are both healthy, I would think that Eaves would go.

I would keep Eaves over Sammy but probably not going to happen.

The line up there is good but I think this would be interesting.

Franzen/Nyquist - Z - Alfee
Abderkader/Tatar - Datsyuk - Bert/Miller
Franzen/Nyquist - Weiss - Abderkader/Tatar
Andersson - Helm - Bert/Miller

Spread the offense out. Datsyuk is suck with weak wingers again but 3 scoring lines.

 

[1st Line Interloper]

I have a feeling he will be coming here under 4.5 mil if he's coming here.

Those later years are probably going to be him used as a 3C. I'm fine with that if Helm's back can't support him playing hockey anymore. The reason I'm fine with him being a 3C in a few years because the cap will likely be up to what it was last year or even beyond that.

He's an upgrade over Flip, he's a great two way player, he goes out on the PK, he can play PP. He's a jack of all trades #2 center. He's what this team needs.

 

[Boomhower]

Down to Detroit vs. St Louis for Weiss.

Hoping we pull this off!

 

[chances14]

Mackenzie just said on tsn that blues and wings are finalists for Weiss

 

[bullocks]

McKenzie just said Det and St Louis finalists on Weiss

 

[Chance on Chance]

Really scared we are going after him. He is definately not worth 5+ million. and if reports are correct he is seeking 5+ years.

I believe it would be easier to get a center next year than this. And the quality of centers hopefully will be much better (2nd line wise no chance #1 center hits fa).

He's worth what the market will pay him

 

[SportsballChic]

Dear St Louis. Win.

**** that hurt just to type.

 

[Run the Jewels]

I have a feeling he will be coming here under 4.5 mil if he's coming here.

Those later years are probably going to be him used as a 3C. I'm fine with that if Helm's back can't support him playing hockey anymore. The reason I'm fine with him being a 3C in a few years because the cap will likely be up to what it was last year or even beyond that.

He's an upgrade over Flip, he's a great two way player, he goes out on the PK, he can play PP. He's a jack of all trades #2 center. He's what this team needs.

Yep, Weiss is a legit #2 center. That's a role the Wings groomed Filppula for but he could never quite fill the spot. Our top 6 should be much more potent with Alfredsson and Weiss.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Interesting to note that TSN was slamming Philadelphia a bit for the Lecavalier deal. Pierre says he would have done 2 years, 3 at max. Sound like anybody?

 

[Run the Jewels]

Mackenzie just said on tsn that blues and wings are finalists for Weiss

The Blues GM pantsed Kenny on J-Bo, guessing the same thing happens with Weiss.

 

[last_sd]

I would be good with Weiss but I just hope we don't overpay(I know impossible in FA)

That's why I thought Grabo would be not bad since he is already getting paid buy-out money(I also know that doesn't mean he will accept less money).

But I don't think our team tolerates a player who rips his coach in media.

 

[Wolverine Wings]

Dear St Louis. Win.

**** that hurt just to type.

He's an alright 2nd line Center. Zetterberg and Datsyuk won't be able to carry a line by themselves forever.

I hope a top six of
Z - Dats - Mule
Nyquist - Weiss - Alfie