Pre-Game Talk: Wings @ Panthers, Thursday 19/3

Laser Rayzor · Mar 18, 2015

Those SHG must have been the last straw, I wouldn't be surprised to see him below Cleary on the depth chart.

aar000n · Mar 18, 2015

Flowah said:
Unless Babs is gone, Wings have to consider buying out Weiss or doing what it takes to trade him. We can argue all day about whether Weiss is a good player or not, or worth having in the lineup, Babs has already made that choice for us. So cut your losses on him and move on.

Normal babcock blatant favoritism to his favorates while push down the ones he does not like. Legwand now Weiss but keep playing Ericson. Keeping better players on the bench or in the AHL http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/...o-to-grand-rapids/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
Last year Tar Tar and Nyquist were sitting for deadbeat dan cleary and over the hill sammy. :shakehead

Yet people want him as a coach.

sean3250 · Mar 18, 2015

aar000n said:
Normal babcock blatant favoritism to his favorates while push down the ones he does not like. Legwand now Weiss but keep playing Ericson. Keeping better players on the bench or in the AHL http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/...o-to-grand-rapids/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
Last year Tar Tar and Nyquist were sitting for deadbeat dan cleary and over the hill sammy. Yet people want him as a coach.

Well, your probably going to get your wish. Babcock is most likely gone at the end of the year. I don't see him coming back

SoupNazi · Mar 18, 2015

sean3250 said:
Well, your probably going to get your wish. Babcock is most likely gone at the end of the year. I don't see him coming back

Oh really? Where do you see him going?

DatsDeking · Mar 18, 2015

InjuredChoker said:
Erik Cole-Henrik Zetterberg-Justin Abdelkader

Tomas Tatar-Riley Sheahan-Darren Helm

Gustav Nyquist-Luke Glendening-Teemu Pulkkinen

Drew Miller-Joakim Andersson-Tomas Jurco.

Those lines are woof.

ap3x · Mar 18, 2015

woof woof. Put Luke back on the 4th line already. That's what made it work in the first place.

Pavels Dog · Mar 18, 2015

Yeah Luke on the 4th line, Helm centering the 3rd, Jurco with Sheahan and Tats. Seems logical. In this case I don't understand Babcock.

Filppula · Mar 18, 2015

Pavels Dog said:
Yeah Luke on the 4th line, Helm centering the 3rd, Jurco with Sheahan and Tats. Seems logical. In this case I don't understand Babcock.

Incredibly stubborn man at times.

Those lines you wish for would be ideal. No idea why he can't just try Jurco with the guys he gelled with so well last season.

ap3x · Mar 18, 2015

You guys feel me. Babs doesn't.

Z40 · Mar 18, 2015

Babs wasn't lying when he said Helm is officially a winger now.

detredWINgs · Mar 18, 2015

Z40 said:
Babs wasn't lying when he said Helm is officially a winger now.

Good thing we have a guy who can handle being a 3rd line center in Weiss. Oh wait. :shakehead

I don't care how poorly Weiss played in his most recent game - there is absolutely no way it was more rough than some of the outings Ericsson has had this year. That game where Ericsson had countless giveaways before serving up a beautiful assist in the slot to the opposition for an easy goal comes to mind. Yet did he even suffer a demotion? Nope. And that's just one of many players who have had a much longer leash than Weiss. There is no way Weiss is 14th forward bad.

I'd love to know what the plan is with Weiss, because we are simultaneously destroying his confidence and the little trade value he had accumulated this season with decent play. If it weren't for Babcock's blatant favoritism and dog-housing in the past, I'd say this was a sign that Babcock has decided to test the market and couldn't care less about where this leaves Weiss after this season. But this could just as well be Babcock being himself.

This is probably an extra slap in the face for Weiss, considering he's scratched against the Panthers of all teams.

Mijatovic · Mar 18, 2015

If Weiss doesnt play with Datsyuk out, then Babcock is officially senile and we should happily move him on.

Give the reins over to Blashill.

Bench · Mar 18, 2015

SoupNazi said:
Oh really? Where do you see him going?

I heard the Patriots made an offer so he can stand next to Belichick and create the grumpiest duo in sports.

aar000n · Mar 18, 2015

Mijatovic said:
If Weiss doesnt play with Datsyuk out, then Babcock is officially senile and we should happily move him on.

Give the reins over to Blashill.

I approve

Claypool · Mar 18, 2015

Not sure why people care about Stephan Weiss. He's not a good player.

DanZ · Mar 18, 2015

Claypool said:
Not sure why people care about Stephan Weiss. He's not a good player.

7th on the team in Points/60. Not sure how a bad player can produce like that. What does that say about everyone below him?

ap3x · Mar 18, 2015

Not to mention his relatively low TOI/game and being mostly wasted on the 4th line.

FlashyG · Mar 18, 2015

Bench said:
I heard the Patriots made an offer so he can stand next to Belichick and create the grumpiest duo in sports.

Claypool said:
Not sure why people care about Stephan Weiss. He's not a good player.

He's better than some of the guys playing in our current line-up. There is absolutely no good reason why he shouldn't be playing while Datsyuk is out.

Mijatovic · Mar 18, 2015

He might not be a great player but hes comfortably ahead of Anderrson, Miller, Jurco, Glendening for a position as 3C. Hes also arguably just as good as Sheahan(he is IMO)

ap3x · Mar 18, 2015

FlashyG said:

Awesome. Siamese grumpy twins.

Bench · Mar 18, 2015

ap3x said:
Awesome. Siamese grumpy twins.

They look like two deflated balls.

Heaton · Mar 18, 2015

DanZ said:
7th on the team in Points/60. Not sure how a bad player can produce like that. What does that say about everyone below him?

That they never had a hot streak on Datsyuk's line.

DanZ · Mar 18, 2015

Heaton said:
That they never had a hot streak on Datsyuk's line.

They also didn't get relegated to the 4th line (other than Weiss' fellow 4th liners). Seriously, the only player on our team with less ice time per game is Dan Cleary :laugh:

Also, if it's so easy to produce with Datsyuk, why couldn't Jurco or Glendenning do anything with him?

Heaton · Mar 18, 2015

DanZ said:
They also didn't get relegated to the 4th line (other than Weiss' fellow 4th liners). Seriously, the only player on our team with less ice time per game is Dan Cleary

Also, if it's so easy to produce with Datsyuk, why couldn't Jurco or Glendenning do anything with him?

Never said it was easy. I think people need to realize with 14 games left Babcock isn't going to magically trust Weiss. hoping he gets some time at center is foolish thinking, wanting it to happen isn't going to make it happen. Babcock doesn't trust him, so I think it's better to focus on the guys he does trust and expect them to step up.

DanZ · Mar 18, 2015

Heaton said:
Never said it was easy. I think people need to realize with 14 games left Babcock isn't going to magically trust Weiss. hoping he gets some time at center is foolish thinking, wanting it to happen isn't going to make it happen. Babcock doesn't trust him, so I think it's better to focus on the guys he does trust and expect them to step up.

Well obviously Babcock doesn't trust him. That's why he benched him. The debate is whether or not he should trust him. I believe Weiss is still a good player that provides value.

I agree though, if Babcock isn't going to use Weiss in the playoffs he might as well operate as if he's no longer on the team.

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