I still don't like the idea of giving up on Kindl to keep a guy like Colo around who's always injured. Kindl's only played about 100 NHL games. That's just over one full season. Give him more time.
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Laser Rayzor
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Consistent time seems to be key for Kindl, it seems to me like he is the type of player that thrives on confidence, shuffle him in and out of the lineup constantly for scrubs and ahl callups he's going to struggle. Unfortunately it appears that being the 7th guy and being rotated in and out is as far as Kindl will go under Babcock, hopefully he nets a somewhat decent return given the strong draft coming up.
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No, I think we will go down at this season and is a lock 7th defenceman for next season. It pretty much has been the plan all the time.
Agreed, and despite a few bad games this season, he's looked really solid past few chances hes been out there.
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I just don't get it.
Unless this is a two-way deal, fine.
But Kindl is right now, a much better defenseman than Lashoff. I think he'd be a great number five, good number four. He's 'on pace' for what, like 35 points, third on the team among defensemen and will probably overtake Ericsson if given playing time.
Unless this is a two-way deal, fine.
But Kindl is right now, a much better defenseman than Lashoff. I think he'd be a great number five, good number four. He's 'on pace' for what, like 35 points, third on the team among defensemen and will probably overtake Ericsson if given playing time.
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Using your example, if Kindl is a top4 D, why would it matter if they signed Lashoff to be the 7th D? It's also a puckmover vs a penaltykiller.
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Well, Lashoff is playing more minutes, and has been used on the 'top' pairing until recently, at least. Kindl should be getting more ESTOI/G, in my opinion anyway.
Like I said(guess you missed it), if it is a two way deal, and he is in fact signed to be a number seven, that's fine. If the signing means Kindl is on his way out without an upgrade coming back somehow, I'd be really disappointed as a fan.
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On a bit of a side note, I feel like this teams defense isn't shooting enough, or at least getting pucks on the net. Kronwall leads the team with 27 shots, good for 50th in the league. Next up is Kindl with 17 shots, good for 108th.
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The only thing a two-way deal does is to decrease his AHL salary. It's not going to keep him from being waiver exempt.
That is the only thing I care about. We have to re-sign one of the most exciting players to ever play the game. Holland has to do it. Give him 8 M.
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Completely agree. But they clearly weren't going to make a ton of noise in the playoffs last year, and they knew they weren't going to re-sign Hudler, and yet the brass passed up the opportunity to trade Hudler (who, based on the market last year, probably meant a 2nd round pick).
Heaton
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Depends how the rest of the defense is made up. This team still needs another top 2 defensemen. Lashoff has been pretty good for a rookie who no one thought would play on the team this year. Nitpicking him seems counterproductive.
He's 3rd in blocked shots and 1st in terms of hits for defensemen (I know, the nhl does a terrible job at keeping those stats). He hasn't been nearly as bad as some think, especially for a 22 year old.
Heaton
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No, that's how it's always been. He has another year on his deal, can't sign an extension until the final year of his contract. I could be wrong about the January thing but I'm pretty sure that's the case.
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joe89
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I kinda understand where the Kindl > Lashoff posts come from, and in terms of puck skills it's not close. But to pick on Lashoff to me seems strange, I agree. He's proving that he can stick around in the league, might never be anything special but someone you are fine playing. Every player doesn't need flash and immense upside.
WingedWheel1987
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i think people are mostly bothered because lashoff has been playing on the 1st and 2nd pairings, which his play hasn't really warranted 
joe89
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i think people are mostly bothered because lashoff has been playing on the 1st and 2nd pairings, which his play hasn't really warranted
Which makes the discussion a little misdirected. Lashoff doesn't choose to play on the 1st pair, Kronwall doesn't choose to play more than he's capable, Cleary doesn't choose to play in the top six. It's up to Kenny to make sure he has players for every role, and up to Babs to manage the ice time and matchups.
Kronwalled55
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It's not "nitpicking him"
It's calling an AHLer what he is. An AHLer.
He's been awful. He's out of position all the time.
The team can't score goals when he's on the ice because they're too busy running around their own end.
Guys skate right by him with the puck like he's not there.
He's a plug. Maybe he learns. But I don't think so.
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