Windsor Spitfires 2019-20 Season Thread (Part 5)

[Habsfan18]

 

[OHLTG]

Very curious about how this turns out.

 

[punch1943]

Bit of a surprise Rychel canned this quickly. This news does come from OHL insiders and no where else. Not saying it’s false but no other sources including Barrie have reported it yet!
Lots of other sources now reporting the story.....

 

[TheGremlin]

WR was a problem here last year sticking his nose where it didn’t belong and trying to be a coach and now fired in barrie. Can’t be coincidence now how Windsor has totally done a 180 the year he left.

 

[2023]

WR was a problem here last year sticking his nose where it didn’t belong and trying to be a coach and now fired in barrie. Can’t be coincidence now how Windsor has totally done a 180 the year he left.

come on, that’s not fair, These are all his pics

 

[TheGremlin]

come on, that’s not fair, These are all his pics

And those pick he tried coaching last year and he was part of the dysfunction.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Whether or not Rychel was to blame last year for the teams issues in how they played is close to irrelevant. Even if Rychel was trying to coach the players last year doesn't explain why the players didn't work hard under Letowski. The blame on Rychel goes to not handling what happened after 2017 very well. Going into coaching Barrie I imagine it was always going to end this way it's a square peg and round hole.

 

[punch1943]

Whether or not Rychel was to blame last year for the teams issues in how they played is close to irrelevant. Even if Rychel was trying to coach the players last year doesn't explain why the players didn't work hard under Letowski. The blame on Rychel goes to not handling what happened after 2017 very well. Going into coaching Barrie I imagine it was always going to end this way it's a square peg and round hole.

Love him or hate him, Rychel is a GM/Talent Evaluator/Scout Upper management type not a coach for an extended period. He'll be re-invented elsewhere but not as a coach. My guess in the NHL...

 

[TheGremlin]

Love him or hate him, Rychel is a GM/Talent Evaluator/Scout Upper management type not a coach for an extended period. He'll be re-invented elsewhere but not as a coach. My guess in the NHL...

He will only become a good gm or anything else you mentioned if he evolves like the game has. Its not all rough and tough like it used to be and he seems stuck in those ways.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

He will only become a good gm or anything else you mentioned if he evolves like the game has. Its not all rough and tough like it used to be and he seems stuck in those ways.

I would agree with this 100%. His failure to adapt to the game was one of the biggest things holding this team back for many years.

 

[LeProspector]

 

[randomhero4life]

That's why I like him and definitely the best poster on this board.

That and you both have so much in common, A perfect friendship you 2 have.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

That and you both have so much in common, A perfect friendship you 2 have.

Kind of like your friendship with Hard Facts?? Will he ever return?? Thought you would be the best to ask.

 

[randomhero4life]

Kind of like your friendship with Hard Facts?? Will he ever return?? Thought you would be the best to ask.

???? ....Sorry you lost me there bud...

 

[OHLTG]

I'm not sold on this idea of "he hasn't adapted." The game is speed and creativity; that's exactly what this team has become. Fighting majors are WAY down, the rough-and-tumble game is WAY down (heck, people whine about it on here regularly), and finesse is very much up. Rychel was much more "we need scoring" over the last handful of seasons. That was the exact reason he drafted Foudy in 2019. Sometimes it worked out, others it didn't. To say he didn't adapt to the game, though... sorry, I don't buy it.

 

[ohloutsider]

That and you both have so much in common, A perfect friendship you 2 have.

Always thought it is the same person - 2 accounts.

 

[stickhandle]

I would agree with this 100%. His failure to adapt to the game was one of the biggest things holding this team back for many years.

He won 3 Mem cup rings in 10 years , thats all you need to know about his abilities as a hockey exec., this is his first time coaching and was given an average team that he had no part of building. To say he hasn't evolved with the game is a laughable comment

 

[TheGremlin]

I'm not sold on this idea of "he hasn't adapted." The game is speed and creativity; that's exactly what this team has become. Fighting majors are WAY down, the rough-and-tumble game is WAY down (heck, people whine about it on here regularly), and finesse is very much up. Rychel was much more "we need scoring" over the last handful of seasons. That was the exact reason he drafted Foudy in 2019. Sometimes it worked out, others it didn't. To say he didn't adapt to the game, though... sorry, I don't buy it.

An argument i’m hearing from some barrie fans was he was to much rough and tough game and not letting skilled guys do their things. He always wanted those 6’5 or bigger guys. He wanted gritty guys. Why do you think he agreed they needed more scoring. It was cause the players he was drafting weren’t the big offensive guys. Foudy is one of the few guys that aren’t the banging gritty guys.

 

[OHLTG]

An argument i’m hearing from some barrie fans was he was to much rough and tough game and not letting skilled guys do their things. He always wanted those 6’5 or bigger guys. He wanted gritty guys. Why do you think he agreed they needed more scoring. It was cause the players he was drafting weren’t the big offensive guys. Foudy is one of the few guys that aren’t the banging gritty guys.

The drafts before Foudy, he went after defencemen; Staios, Corcoran, Henault were all high picks. None of them were gritty, either. Then he realized he needed offence up front and went for Foudy, Cuylle, etc. You have to go a ways back to find a true gritty Spits team with guys like DiGi, Stanley, McCool, etc. This roster has Douglas and Boka but it's not the rough, tumble, gritty team of the past. Rychel adjusted when he was here. Maybe he took a different path with the Colts (I've read some, too), but he was all about the skill/speed (wth some grit) when he was here.

 

[TheGremlin]

Cuylle is more of a big body and banger right now then he is offensive threat and wasn’t drafted by him, McDonald another big kid and Robinson drafted round after who another big kid. Digi and stanley era not really aways back. They did win in 17. I’d say last draft was more skilled players drafted but we don’t know who was calling the shots on that draft.

 

[OHLTG]

Cuylle was not brought in for the bang-and-crash, though. He was a sniper and has turned into the bang-crash this season. McDonald is big, as is Robinson, but neither are the gritty, rough-and-tough guys of the past. They're more the finesse types where size is simply a bonus. The roster now is a vastly different style than past seasons, dating back to 2015ish, or even 2011ish.

 

[TheGremlin]

So basically he misjudge cuylle’s talent to this point. Ok they aren’t rough and tough cause ohl taking that away. But they aren’t skill finesse type of players. These guys are straight ahead kinda players and don’t need to be fancy. Either way we will never agree on anything referring to WR. I think he the best Windsor has ever had but to me he isn’t one of the greatest GMs.

 

[TheGremlin]

He won 3 Mem cup rings in 10 years , thats all you need to know about his abilities as a hockey exec., this is his first time coaching and was given an average team that he had no part of building. To say he hasn't evolved with the game is a laughable comment

But from 2012 playoff to now not winning a single playoff round with players he drafted makes him a top notch evaluator of talent? Now that is laughable. A very good hockey Exec would have a contending team in a few of those years. The more time that passed it made me wonder how much input BB had in the first few years they got the team. I’m thinking he had quite a bit.

 

[stickhandle]

But from 2012 playoff to now not winning a single playoff round with players he drafted makes him a top notch evaluator of talent? Now that is laughable. A very good hockey Exec would have a contending team in a few of those years. The more time that passed it made me wonder how much input BB had in the first few years they got the team. I’m thinking he had quite a bit.

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[RayzorIsDull]

But from 2012 playoff to now not winning a single playoff round with players he drafted makes him a top notch evaluator of talent? Now that is laughable. A very good hockey Exec would have a contending team in a few of those years. The more time that passed it made me wonder how much input BB had in the first few years they got the team. I’m thinking he had quite a bit.

Agreed lets not be naive to think that he "wanted" to coach. I would also say that Barrie is clearly rebuilding and I doubt they let him go strictly for losing games. Hilarious to see people bending over backwards to compliment Rychel when he's long gone. Just further proof that Rychel could do no wrong and absolved of all failures.