Wilson hit on Brandon Carlo (Part-2) (suspended 7 games)

[Nothingbutglass]

The referees should be fired. Not sure what they are doing out there.

 

[Il Stugotz]

Given that the Caps play tomorrow night, is it the assumption we’ll find out today? Or night the league just suspend him pending a hearing?

They can suspend him indefinitely and have the hearing later. I doubt they'd wait any longer than Monday though.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Yeah basically that's it. Stuff like that hit happens. Just accept it especially if your team has committed fouls in the past.

Easily the stupidest take on the board. This wont be topped.

 

[Nut Upstrom]

Nothing to see here, hard hockey play...Bruins fans say this every time their guy does it, so...............

But so does every teams' fans!!!
Gee wizz!

 

[Drew311]

Gotta love Saint Brad Marchand calling Wilson out for a dirty play on national television.

 

[Gert B Frobe]

Think they will ask him "what were you thinking there?"

He went straight after his head. That hit is completely indefensible and he should get at least 6 games.

 

[member 96824]

Nothing to see here, hard hockey play...Bruins fans say this every time their guy does it, so...............

So now you’re saying it too!

You showed them!

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Cringeworthy response. Different eras, yet Wilson chooses not to learn. Marchand has.

Imagine angling with Karma as the justification.

When did Marchand learn? He tore up Zach Hyman's ACL just a year and a half ago in dirty pretend-to-fall-and-slide-into-him manoeuvre in the 2019 playoffs.

 

[Embryo]

Made me think of the Chris Simon face slash on Ryan Hollweg. That was bad. Hope Carlo is ok. Best wishes, from Rangers fan. Not cool

 

[Mathews28]

Whataboutism is an attempt at avoiding moral judgement on something that the user knows is wrong but isn’t morally qualified or mature enough to admit. You typically find this behavior in children.

great post in response to a great post.

whataboutism is the go to for those who have no intellectual depth, moral character and honesty to “go to”.. It’s a sham and seems rampant these days especially in political discussions.

 

[member 96824]

When did Marchand learn? He tore up Zach Hyman's ACL just a year and a half ago in dirty pretend-to-fall-and-slide-into-him manoeuvre in the 2019 playoffs.

Do you have a video of this? I’m asking sincerely, I remember Hyman playing on a torn ACL but don’t recall the play you’re taking about.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Just to be my own devil's advocate here (since I already posted this was a textbook headshot), if you notice, Carlo unintentionally almost butt ends Wilson in the face as Wilson's coming in for the hit. He (Wilson) was coming in low with his elbows tucked for a clean hit but raises up at the last moment. I originally interpreted this as Wilson driving his forearms up into the head area.

Could it be he was avoiding the butt end to the chops?

 

[member 96824]

Why are slow videos always posted? Anyone have a full speed video for this incident?

here ya go



(sorry in advance for listening to Jack. I’d recommend mute)

 

[compan]

Just to be my own devil's advocate here (since I already posted this was a textbook headshot), if you notice, Carlo unintentionally almost butt ends Wilson in the face as Wilson's coming in for the hit. He (Wilson) was coming in low with his elbows tucked for a clean hit but raises up at the last moment. I originally interpreted this as Wilson driving his forearms up into the head area.

Could it be he was avoiding the butt end to the chops?

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If he was trying to avoid that, he had two directions to go in. He chose the one where he hits the head.

 

[pearljamvs5]

Why discuss at all if you're going to be blatantly obtuse. It has plenty to do with this discussion: The Cap fans defending the hit would rail against it if it was their player on the receiving end. The Bruin fans would swear on the hit's legality if their player had initiated it. Relates directly to this silly back and forth discussion of,
"was legal hit,"
"Was not."
"Was too."
"Was not, its exactly like this video clip of this evil guy doing something bad that got him suspended!"
"No it wasn't!"
"Was too."

Okay. But that's not the argument. Tom Wilson layed an "arguably" illegal hit. Objective hockey fans are against this hit. End of story. Ovechkin got a joke of a fine last game, and now Wilson will likely get a suspension. If he (some how) doesn't get one, it won't change how objective fans view the incident. The fact that the guilty team's fans disagrees with the end result is irrelevant.

 

[Score8]

Id love to see the nhl start yanking draft picks from teams that have player(s) involved in multiple dirty hit scandals repeatedly. This seems to be more of an organizational problem in Washington, as in they lack the proper motivation to control this type of behavior.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

Dirty hit, I like how Tinordi stepped up, lots of respect for him to take it to Wilson. But my goodness is Edwards unbearable, I had most of the game on mute.

Trust me, the caps commentators downplaying the whole thing was just as cringe-worthy as Jack Edwards’ hand-wringing.

 

[DKH]

Huge Wilson fan - wish the Bruins had him. The Ovechkin-Kuznetsov- Wilson one of my handful of favorite all time lines. That was the type of hit the NFL has outlawed. He hit a player in a vulnerable position with head area targeted.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

If he was trying to avoid that, he had two directions to go in. He chose the one where he hits the head.

Well I agree and if there's a player that doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, it's Wilson. I'm just trying to look at it objectively and wonder what Wilson's excuse will be during his interview. Just saying it's not *entirely* implausible.

 

[pearljamvs5]

Gotta love Saint Brad Marchand calling Wilson out for a dirty play on national television.

If a "dirty" player is calling you out on being dirty...you should maybe take the hint

 

[member 96824]

Watch Hyman's reaction once it happens (far boards).

Thanks for sending.

 

[bme44]

Gotta love Saint Brad Marchand calling Wilson out for a dirty play on national television.

This thread is not about Marchand. This thread is about Wilson and and a dirty reckless hit bye a player with a very checkered past . Player safety needs to take a very long look at if there is a place for Player like this in the NHL

 

[Nut Upstrom]

Okay. But that's not the argument. Tom Wilson layed an "arguably" illegal hit. Objective hockey fans are against this hit. End of story. Ovechkin got a joke of a fine last game, and now Wilson will likely get a suspension. If he (some how) doesn't get one, it won't change how objective fans view the incident. The fact that the guilty team's fans disagrees with the end result is irrelevant.

Its not irrelevant, its the reason this discussion is approaching fifty pages in length. I agree with you about how objective hockey fans will likely view this hit, but there is next to no objectivity in this entire discussion!

 

[DKH]

Take away from this thread is if Lucic was on Bruins and did same hit to Carlson the Capitals fans would call it clean and no penalty and certainly no suspension

 

[Barnum]

Whataboutism is an attempt at avoiding moral judgement on something that the user knows is wrong but isn’t morally qualified or mature enough to admit. You typically find this behavior in children.

Well, kinda and mostly right but all it really is “deflection” for one’s own faults on any given topic and it is mostly political theatrics not a children’s tactic. It more or less harkens back to the Soviet Union and it’s attempts to rationalize their shitty system, incidents and behaviors by pointing out faults in the western democracies as an equivalent, when it is not remotely the same. Mountain vs mole hole type of stuff. But carry on....

This is an awful thread but what else do we expect around here, this always happens after a dirty hit like this. We actually had someone post...they didn’t think Carlo went to the hospital in these threads. That’s how stupid these threads have become around here.

Wilson meant to knock his lights out and he did because that is who Wilson is, a dirty player. Anyone with any sense of honesty and integrity would look at this gif and stop defending Wilson. You can see he swings his upper body straight into Carlo’s head and neck area.