Why is it taking so long to extend Chabot?

[Sens]

Maybe I dont understand something, but 56/5 is 11.2. And this is 4 first round picks.

Where are you getting the 56 number from?
A team (Montreal) can offer 50/5 A 10.0 hit and front load it with bonuses... 23 million in a calendar year

 

[Hun]

Where are you getting the 56 number from?

7Mx8=56M.

 

[Sens]

7Mx8=56M.

What does that have to do with a 10x5 offer sheet?

 

[Hun]

What does that have to do with a 10x5 offer sheet?

What is 10x5?
"The offer sheet compensation is based on total salary / 5 years. If Sens offer 7x8 for 56 million it breaks down to 56 million divided 5 yeas which is 11.2 per year . Compensation will be 4 first round picks. Who will agree to such conditions?"

 

[Sens]

What is 10x5?
"The offer sheet compensation is based on total salary / 5 years. If Sens offer 7x8 for 56 million it breaks down to 56 million divided 5 yeas which is 11.2 per year . Compensation will be 4 first round picks. Who will agree to such conditions?"

Um that’s not how it works... the Sens just can’t offer 7x8 and hope Chabot does not accept 10x5 with 23 million in bonuses from another club

Hahahahaha

 

[Hun]

the Sens just can’t offer 7x8

Why?

 

[Sens]

Why?

Because Chabot is not going to accept it
He’s free to look around for offer sheets

He can get 10x5 with loaded bonus money

If He signs a 10x5 offer sheet with 23 million in bonus money the first year

The Sens either accept
Or let him go for
Two 1sts
One 2nd
One 3rd

 

[Hun]

Because Chabot is not going to accept it
He’s free to look around for offer sheets

He can get 10x5 with loaded bonus money

If He signs a 10x5 offer sheet with 23 million in bonus money the first year

The Sens either accept
Or let him go for
Two 1sts
One 2nd
One 3rd

If Chabot is not going to accept the offer, then:
""The offer sheet compensation is based on total salary / 5 years. If Sens offer 7x8 for 56 million it breaks down to 56 million divided 5 yeas which is 11.2 per year . Compensation will be 4 first round picks."

 

[Sens]

If Chabot is not going to accept the offer, then:
""The offer sheet compensation is based on total salary / 5 years. If Sens offer 7x8 for 56 million it breaks down to 56 million divided 5 yeas which is 11.2 per year . Compensation will be 4 first round picks."

So you are telling me that offer even if Chabot does not want it has more power then a 10x5 front loaded offer sheet he signs ???

You know how ridiculous that sounds

 

[BondraTime]

If Chabot is not going to accept the offer, then:
""The offer sheet compensation is based on total salary / 5 years. If Sens offer 7x8 for 56 million it breaks down to 56 million divided 5 yeas which is 11.2 per year . Compensation will be 4 first round picks."

What does a 7x8 offer from the Sens have to do with what teams will send as an offersheet? And why are you taking the Sens offer and dividing it by 5? That’s not how offersheets work, in the slightest. The Sens don’t set the terms, the other teams do.

No team is going to send an offersheet of 7x8, as that’s completely moronic. They will just send a 5 year deal at 8.5-10 million a year with 90% signing bonus and a ton in the first calendar year.

 

[DaveMatthew]

If Chabot is not going to accept the offer, then:
""The offer sheet compensation is based on total salary / 5 years. If Sens offer 7x8 for 56 million it breaks down to 56 million divided 5 yeas which is 11.2 per year . Compensation will be 4 first round picks."

This makes zero sense.

 

[Hun]

That’s not how offersheets work, in the slightest.

How does the offersheets work?

 

[BondraTime]

How does the offersheets work?

The Sens can’t offersheet, or create an offer sheet for Chabot. They can only match, or decline to match, he offersheets other teams make for him. They can offer him a contact of 7x8, but that has nothing to do with any potential offersheets.

Other teams will not be offering anything over 5 years, as that is number of years you can offer while also giving a high aav (10 million) while also only giving up 1st (x2) and 2nd and a 3rd.

Other teams can offer a 5 x 10 contract worth 50 million with 23 million in signing bonus the 1st year, and 46 million of the 50 in signing bonuses, an only give up 2 1st a 2nd and a 3rd.

Chabot then only has to make 3 million aav over the next 2 years to surpass the Sens 7x8 offer, without even taking bonuses into account.

 

[Hun]

They can offer him a contact of 7x8, but that has nothing to do with any potential offersheets.

This can be justified by any link?

 

[BondraTime]

This can be justified by any link?

Sure, You can’t offersheet your own player...that’s what the other teams do.

That’s just offering him a contract.

Aho signed a contract that Montreal offered him, it had nothing to do with Carolina’s offers or anything they did.

 

[Sens]

This can be justified by any link?

How NHL offer sheets work and six players who could get one - Sportsnet.ca

 

[Hun]

Thanks for the explanation.

 

[branch]

The negotiations next year/hopefully not the year after between Pierre Dorion and Big MF'in Walt are going to be something to behold.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Aho, signed the offer sheet because Carolina was trying to leverage him into signing for much less. It was the only leverage he could use given his contract situation.

It happened after Carolina made their negotiation strategy clear.

In my opinion, as long as we’re not trying to do the same thing there is no need for Chabot to entertain even looking at an offer sheet. Teams can offer whatever they want, and perhaps he’d prefer a front loaded 10x5, but we’d be able to offer a smaller bonus structure on a 9x8 or something.

As long as he continues to like the group and want to be part of the team, I imagine that he would be ok signing that kind of deal, for longer term and more money.

Remember, TC has to actually sign the sheet, and by all accounts he’s happy in Ottawa with BT and the boys. We can offer him a long term deal that would like cost MTL far too much to match on an offer sheet.

This situation is very unlikely, but it’s definitely better for TC to wait a bit to drive up his value.

 

[Engineer]

Colorado just extended Girard for 7 years.

 

[branch]

Colorado just extended Girard for 7 years.

"Thomas Chabot has no incentive to sign this year"

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[GrantLemons]

Aho, signed the offer sheet because Carolina was trying to leverage him into signing for much less. It was the only leverage he could use given his contract situation.

It happened after Carolina made their negotiation strategy clear.

In my opinion, as long as we’re not trying to do the same thing there is no need for Chabot to entertain even looking at an offer sheet. Teams can offer whatever they want, and perhaps he’d prefer a front loaded 10x5, but we’d be able to offer a smaller bonus structure on a 9x8 or something.

As long as he continues to like the group and want to be part of the team, I imagine that he would be ok signing that kind of deal, for longer term and more money.

Remember, TC has to actually sign the sheet, and by all accounts he’s happy in Ottawa with BT and the boys. We can offer him a long term deal that would like cost MTL far too much to match on an offer sheet.

This situation is very unlikely, but it’s definitely better for TC to wait a bit to drive up his value.

This made me chuckle a bit. I'm sure he loved watching all of our elite players dealt for magic beans, and the team subsequently slashing payroll to historic cap era lows. I guess it's kind of like how this was the "greatest group of guys" Matt Duchene had ever played with.

Spoiler alert: if any team offer sheet's Thomas Chabot with the correct conditions (AAV, signing bonus', term), he's going to sign it.

 

[GrantLemons]

"Thomas Chabot has no incentive to sign this year"

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Exact same situation as Chabot as well. RFA after next season.

Well done by Colorado. Maybe one day this team will be able to get those kinds of deal done.

 

[RaMai]

Aho, signed the offer sheet because Carolina was trying to leverage him into signing for much less. It was the only leverage he could use given his contract situation.

It happened after Carolina made their negotiation strategy clear.

In my opinion, as long as we’re not trying to do the same thing there is no need for Chabot to entertain even looking at an offer sheet. Teams can offer whatever they want, and perhaps he’d prefer a front loaded 10x5, but we’d be able to offer a smaller bonus structure on a 9x8 or something.

As long as he continues to like the group and want to be part of the team, I imagine that he would be ok signing that kind of deal, for longer term and more money.

Remember, TC has to actually sign the sheet, and by all accounts he’s happy in Ottawa with BT and the boys. We can offer him a long term deal that would like cost MTL far too much to match on an offer sheet.

This situation is very unlikely, but it’s definitely better for TC to wait a bit to drive up his value.

And as we all have seen the last few years, a smaller bonus structure will not be a problem for EM...as long as that bonus is a hotdog every home game(*).




*prepared from leftovers of course

 

[branch]

Exact same situation as Chabot as well. RFA after next season.

Well done by Colorado. Maybe one day this team will be able to get those kinds of deal done.

Bla Bla bla leave it to some other people to come in talking about TV revenue and that Eugene is getting a divorce and it's all our fault and Pierre Dorion is a genius