Why has lars eller regressed so hard.

[Harry Wong]

How can we give Eller a top six role without trading Desharnais?

We can't so lets do it.

 

[Milhouse40]

I don't think you took into consideration how many of those points Eller got playing wing for another center...did you?

By the way, I love Eller, so much that I think he will replace Pleks. The way I see it if the Habs want to have a somewhat dominant center line in the next 3 years our centers should be: Chucky, Eller, De la Rose +whoever (maybe Gregoire). The smurf time will be officially over at that point.

No i didn't. Just add up the numbers here

 

[highstick14*]

Maybe Eller would've made a better winger than center? Only knock on Eller is his skating. Galchenyuk has the same skating problems as Eller. They seem to be missing that jump in their feet, like Gallagher or Subban.

 

[ECWHSWI]

Maybe Eller would've made a better winger than center? Only knock on Eller is his skating. Galchenyuk has the same skating problems as Eller. They seem to be missing that jump in their feet, like Gallagher or Subban.

would make a great PWF left winger, but for some odd reason he sucks at wing.

 

[Milhouse40]

Maybe Eller would've made a better winger than center? Only knock on Eller is his skating. Galchenyuk has the same skating problems as Eller. They seem to be missing that jump in their feet, like Gallagher or Subban.

??? That's why he's the only forwards able to skate around the O-zone freely?
Unless i'm totally blind, i think he's one of the 3 best skater on this team.

 

[Mrb1p]

Maybe Eller would've made a better winger than center? Only knock on Eller is his skating. Galchenyuk has the same skating problems as Eller. They seem to be missing that jump in their feet, like Gallagher or Subban.

Well shoot. I guess he didn't really finish first in the speed contests the team had the last 3 years ?

I guess he's not one of our only 2 players that can skate around with the puck for days without losing it also ?

Do you even hockey?

 

[Lions999]

Well shoot. I guess he didn't really finish first in the speed contests the team had the last 3 years ?

I guess he's not one of our only 2 players that can skate around with the puck for days without losing it also ?

Do you even hockey?

Wow Eller can skate..........

 

[Haburger]

Well shoot. I guess he didn't really finish first in the speed contests the team had the last 3 years ?

I guess he's not one of our only 2 players that can skate around with the puck for days without losing it also ?

Do you even hockey?

Sure lars can skate with the puck all day long.its what he does or doesnt do with the puck that makes him what he is.I dont get this thread either.doesnt regress mean to get worse? He has been average at best his whole career.not sure it would be possible for him to get worse.

 

[Fish on The Sand]

Make Plekanec a 3rd line C that takes the toughest matchups and plays a ton on the PK but give his PP time to Eller instead.

I'm not against this. If Eller really can't get going in the 2nd line role we can always switch Pleks and Eller around again.

 

[Miller Time]

re-unite the EGG line, leave them together all year, give them the 2nd PP unit duties (at least until they force the issue to be the #1 unit), and watch eller put up a 25g/60pt+ season.

 

[Milhouse40]

Sure lars can skate with the puck all day long.its what he does or doesnt do with the puck that makes him what he is.I dont get this thread either.doesnt regress mean to get worse? He has been average at best his whole career.not sure it would be possible for him to get worse.

This thread started when Eller started his mega-slump.

And as for being average his whole carreer...well, he was better than Desharnais in 12-13.
Was our best center in the first 30 games of this year....and was our best forward in the PO. If he's average at best, what it means for the others...cause for the last 2 years, Eller was our best center 65% of the time

 

[Riggins]

Make Plekanec a 3rd line C that takes the toughest matchups and plays a ton on the PK but give his PP time to Eller instead.

Agreed.

Pacioretty-DD-Parenteau
Chucky-Eller-Gally
Bourque-Plekanec-whoever

Give the EGG line second unit PP duty.

 

[Haburger]

This thread started when Eller started his mega-slump.

And as for being average his whole carreer...well, he was better than Desharnais in 12-13.
Was our best center in the first 30 games of this year....and was our best forward in the PO. If he's average at best, what it means for the others...cause for the last 2 years, Eller was our best center 65% of the time

A 26 point -15 season makes him nowhere near our best center.time for him to step up large .only problem is if he struggles mightily again he will have little value.

 

[Teufelsdreck]

I liked how Eller performed in the POs and I don't see why he can't build on that. Of course it would help if MT stabilized the lines.

P.S. I certainly wouldn't want to undo the Halak trade.

 

[GordonGraham]

Arbitration really ?

That guy has no case

 

[Winter Eclipse]

Arbitration really ?

That guy has no case

That might actually have contributed to him going to arbitration; Habs could've tried to use his last season as a way of justifying a long-term, low cost offer to him. Go to arbitration, and he gets to leave via FA in max 2 years.

 

[Aceekay]

Arbitration really ?

That guy has no case

That depends on what the habs are offering.

 

[ECWHSWI]

A 26 point -15 season makes him nowhere near our best center.time for him to step up large .only problem is if he struggles mightily again he will have little value.

and yet, in the PO...

 

[Deluded Puck]

Is playoff performance (were players aren't paid) considered in Arbitration?

 

[Sorinth]

A 26 point -15 season makes him nowhere near our best center.time for him to step up large .only problem is if he struggles mightily again he will have little value.

Arbitration really ?

That guy has no case

This is his case. He's been just as productive as both Desharnais and Plekanec.

Since the Therrien/Bergevin era began this is the even strength production of our centers.

Desharnais: 64pts in 149 games
Plekanec: 56pts in 150 games
Eller: 57pts in 141 games

Eller has outproduced Plekanec and is 7pts behind Desharnais. Does anyone seriously doubt that playing with Pacioretty wouldn't more than cover those 7pts, let alone the zone starts that DD gets.

This whole Eller doesn't have the offensive potential, or he's too inconsistent is complete BS. Eller deserves a real shot in the top-6.

 

[Sorinth]

How can we give Eller a top six role without trading Desharnais?

Desharnais was fine as a third line center in his rookie year, would Prust/Bourque be that much different from Pouliot/Darche?

I also think Desharnais would work fine as a winger.

 

[Milhouse40]

A 26 point -15 season makes him nowhere near our best center.time for him to step up large .only problem is if he struggles mightily again he will have little value.

BUT the season before that, which also count....he was better than Desharnais.
AND in the first AND last part of the season.....he was better than Desharnais.

And, as you pointed out, there's a huge part where he completely sucked.
But as DD....can it be just a slump? Yes it was a big one....

Arbitration really ?

That guy has no case

Technical move by both Eller and Subban.
And as for the case, he did lead the habs in many areas and close to others.

 

[Forlando]

Agreed.

Pacioretty-DD-Parenteau
Chucky-Eller-Gally
Bourque-Plekanec-whoever

Give the EGG line second unit PP duty.

If Eller can produce and be responsible on D, he should take over the 2nd line role and that means Plekanec is expendable. Lars is cheaper, younger, stronger, meaner. H needs to become more consistent, more reliable on D and improve his decision making with the puck which are Pleks strong points.

However, many analysts believe Eller is 3rd line material, this next season is critical and will define his role in the team IMHO.

 

[overlords]

If Eller can produce and be responsible on D, he will take over the 2nd line role and that means Plekanec is expendable. Lars is cheaper, younger, stronger, meaner. H needs to become more consistent, more reliable on D and improve his decision making with the puck which are Pleks strong points.

Not sure why people think like this. You want as many successful two-way players as possible. One does not make another expendable.

 

[Haburger]

If Eller can produce and be responsible on D, he should take over the 2nd line role and that means Plekanec is expendable. Lars is cheaper, younger, stronger, meaner. H needs to become more consistent, more reliable on D and improve his decision making with the puck which are Pleks strong points.

However, many analysts believe Eller is 3rd line material, this next season is critical and will define his role in the team IMHO.

Of course eller is cheaper he hasnt done anything to warrant a high paying contract. As for plex he is by far our best shutdown center.lars is nowhere near him defensively.as for being mean and strong , I dont see that at all in lars eller.