Well then, quantify and substantiate this statement;
Shouldn't be hard, plus that offering some validity to the statement would be what you generally expect from other posters.
Patience? We have been bottom give for years, this will be the 8th year in a row missing the playoffs, in a few years a bunch of contracts are up and no one will want to play here. People will request trades or refuse to resign. If it doesn't turn around fast we need to blow it up and start over again.Good game last night guys, your team is still young. Don't worry. In a couple years Nurse will be ready for your top 4 and with another top5 pick this year I'm sure Mac will draft another d-man. Couple years Oilers will be a force in the West. Patience.
It shouldn't be that hard to figure out that just because a team is lucky, it doesn't mean they are just lucky (which is what you claimed I said).
Oh get real. One bad game from Belov and we want to ship him off to the KHL?DVR'd it. glad i skipped right to the NHL.com highlights instead:
Belov: this dude looks atrocious. bad pinch on one goal. looked horrid on that 2-on-1 where Gagner started coasting on the back check. im done with this dude. return...... to the KHL.
Petry: his give away on one of the later goals looked so lazy. he just has too much of a bimbo / airhead aspect to his game that keeps me from ever trusting him.
"oh we need some goaltending" yes
defense. yes
forwards with "size and grit" (or how about just execute a system, tape to tape passes, knowing when to shoot, etc)
but what's even better is that the Oilers are so polarized with their assets that they can't even leverage their way into improving the team. you either sell TRASH or TREASURE. there's nothing in between to entice other teams.
and even the treasures they have that could potentially be dealt are frowned on because they can't prop any of them up with horrendous play.
rebuild? bullcrap.
that laugh-wagon is gone.
this is heading into crisis management.
Schultz needs to pick his spots. How can they expect a forward to go back when the 3 forwards are all pretty much in deep the same? Schultz can't be getting caught behind the net either. Not unless he 100% sees a guy back there.
That particular instance was an example of the kind of luck the leafs have been riding all season. That was the point.
Eakins is a disaster. He is so damn arrogant in his press conferences. Did he even watch this game?
Missing Krueger
Yes, don't get me started on the stupidity of Schultz, but when you have a stupid D-man like that you need people smart enough to make up for that by being aware...which the Oilers simply don't have among their top players other than Nuge.
Exactly this.
Team plays like **** under Quinn - fire the coach!
Team plays like **** under Renney - fire the coach!
Team plays like **** under Krueger - fire the coach!
Team plays like **** under Eakins - fire the coach!
There's a common denominator here and it's NOT the coach.
I can't believe I'm saying this but we should be taking a good, long, hard look at these players that we're wanting to lead us to the promised land because so far all that skill hasn't meant ****.
No. There's players, stars and superstars. The people with superstar status in any sport have an unparalleled work ethic. If taylor hall had the same discipline and work ethic as Yakupov he'd have at least 3 100 point seasons. Instead, he likes to spend his free time chain smoking and drinking until he can't stand straight.
The Oilers made some steps last year were competing for a playoff spot they were starting to show promise. They fire that coach and bring in a egotistical idiot, that has already shown he has not an fn clue how to match up lines or run a pp or a pk. 4 different systems in 4 different years . Not all on the players. Rnh against Backstrom and Ovie at home Gagner against Kessel. Gordon our 3 million dollar shutdown specialist shutting down the 3rd line. This is by far the worst of the four coaches AINEC.Let's try 3 or 4 more coaches before looking at the players and management.
The Oilers made some steps last year were competing for a playoff spot they were starting to show promise. They fire that coach and bring in a egotistical idiot, that has already shown he has not an fn clue how to match up lines or run a pp or a pk. 4 different systems in 4 different years . Not all on the players. Rnh against Backstrom and Ovie at home Gagner against Kessel. Gordon our 3 million dollar shutdown specialist shutting down the 3rd line. This is by far the worst of the four coaches AINEC.
Exactly right. The coach scapegoating has gone to ridiculous levels and it's the same **** every year. Now, the fans are longing for Krueger, longer for Renney the year before etc. After a while, it's becoming obvious that it's a player issue more than a coaching issue and unfortunately, i think it starts with the core and their clique type of mentality, only wanting to play on a line with each other, refusing to pass to anybody other than the 3 of them, refusing to buy into any system etc.
Yakupov and Schultz should also be included in this since they have no structure whatsoever in their game. Yes, it's only their 2nd season but i'd like to see at least a little buy in to a team game from them two and we have seen nothing of the sort.
The 5 of them thus far have shown to be incapable of absorbing the small details of the game and applying it to gametime.
I think it's time that the kids start taking some of the blame for the team failures. It's always coaches, vets and support players who get the blame yet the cast around the kids keeps changing and the same results remain. They are all in their 20s now, it's time to stop playing like boys and start playing like men.
Until they learn to play a "team" game, stop with the dangling BS, constantly cheating in the neutral zone looking for a stretch pass and learn to simplify their game and buy in to system play then this team will never go anywhere. The fate of this team rests on the shoulders of the core kids, not the vets, goaltending, coaches etc.
Exactly right. The coach scapegoating has gone to ridiculous levels and it's the same **** every year. Now, the fans are longing for Krueger, longer for Renney the year before etc. After a while, it's becoming obvious that it's a player issue more than a coaching issue and unfortunately, i think it starts with the core and their clique type of mentality, only wanting to play on a line with each other, refusing to pass to anybody other than the 3 of them, refusing to buy into any system etc.
I don't believe it's one or the other or that the two are separate. IMO, it's a lot easier to get players (especially young players) to buy into a system when they aren't learning a new system every bloody year. Not to say the players don't bear the responsibility, obviously, but a little consistency would help this team a lot. I think Eakins is going to be around for a while and it's going to take time to break down some of the bad habits and such. It's just a shame Eakins hasn't been able to hide behind all world goaltending like other rookie coaches one could mention.
The Avs aren't winning just because of their goaltending. Eakins is in tough because of bad management through Lowe down to hiring friends instead of hiring the best people.
We outplayed the Leafs and almost doubled them in shots. You guys need to step off the ledge for a second. Their goalie had a legend status game and if he played like an average goalie we would have fun. You should win almost every game where you get that many more shots.