Lonny Bohonos
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Guess you can say the same for Hamhuis this year? And Edler..Bieksa...
Absolutely. Which is why Id put them all pretty much equal. Yet we hear nothing but how inconsitent Bieksa is as an example.
Guess you can say the same for Hamhuis this year? And Edler..Bieksa...
He's been about as consistent as can be since he adjusted to the system last year.
Dont get your point.
All the dmen have had to "adjust". Garrison just seems to get more leeway with some fans.
That's because +/- is convoluted. It has a massive margin for error. I mean, just take into account how many plays it actually accounts for compared to how many shifts a play takes in a single game.
I already acknowledged that Bieksa is have a fantastic year, but I was speaking of what I typically see from them.
When Bieksa is playing like he currently is, he's as good as Hamhuis or Garrison when they're playing well (I wouldn't say better though). However, he's clearly alot more inconsistent than those two.
He's similarly inconsistent as Edler, but while I think they're equally bad when they're bad, I think Edler is significantly more dominant when they're both at the top of their game. Edler is capable of taking over games.
This is why I think Bieksa is a tier behind the other three. Hamhuis and Garrison are pretty consistently good/great. Bieksa is good/great when he's on and awful when he's off. Edler is awful when he's off, but is incredible/flat out dominant when he's on.
You're expecting nothing short of perfection if you don't think Garrison's consistent due to a few bad plays here and there, IMO.
Nope.
For as much flack as Edler gets for consistency issues there isnt a GM out there who would take Garrison over Edler.
No one should expect perfection but those touting Garrison as being some sort of consitent awesome defenseman are off their rockers.
New toy I guess.
I think you're confusing the reason people are calling him "consistent" with "I'd rather have him because he's better". People are just saying his level of play hasn't fluctuated as wildly over the same time frame. Two different things.
Garrison is near perfect defensively every game. I can't recall a bad game by him. He is a great shutdown Defenseman. If that is not consistency, then what is?
I already acknowledged that Bieksa is have a fantastic year, but I was speaking of what I typically see from them.
When Bieksa is playing like he currently is, he's as good as Hamhuis or Garrison when they're playing well (I wouldn't say better though). However, he's clearly alot more inconsistent than those two.
He's similarly inconsistent as Edler, but while I think they're equally bad when they're bad, I think Edler is significantly more dominant when they're both at the top of their game. Edler is capable of taking over games.
This is why I think Bieksa is a tier behind the other three. Hamhuis and Garrison are pretty consistently good/great. Bieksa is good/great when he's on and awful when he's off. Edler is awful when he's off, but is incredible/flat out dominant when he's on.
Garrison is the weakest of the bunch.
The guy is not a good passer. I made mention of it a couple weeks ago. He's below average in his ability to move the puck.
It's extremely noticeable on the powerplay, and even more so on the breakouts.