The Great Weal
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My god if we lose Bouchard to another team I will be livid. I'm hoping we made Ducharme interim coach because the plan was always to bring Bouchard up for next year.
Who will be the next Habs coach?
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My god if we lose Bouchard to another team I will be livid. I'm hoping we made Ducharme interim coach because the plan was always to bring Bouchard up for next year.
azcanuck
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If Ducharme wins one playoff series do you want him back?
I dont .
I dont .
JianYang
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You can't really answer that question until you know what the alternative is. If it's a retread like AV or something, then you might as well see what DD can do with a full training camp under his belt.
If MB is back next season, then I just don't think he will be given the green light to hire another external head coach. I mean, it could get messy to have your GM on the final year of his deal hire a coach to a 4 or 5 year term.
However, if MB is not brought back next season, then I think DD is is basically toast.
I wonder if they'd flip them...
Bouchard gets given the big club and DD gets the AHL HC role. Seems like he needs some seasoning dealing with HC duties of a professional locker room, whereas Bouchard has had 2 years in charge of men and shown the ability to both build systems and get the most out of a wide range of individual player
Bouchard gets given the big club and DD gets the AHL HC role. Seems like he needs some seasoning dealing with HC duties of a professional locker room, whereas Bouchard has had 2 years in charge of men and shown the ability to both build systems and get the most out of a wide range of individual player
azcanuck
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Has an organization ever fired a coach and then he accepted a lower minor league position?
Vachon23
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Al MacNeil??? Seems winning the Cup doesn't even matter.
Not sure.... And I doubt it would ever happen for a full time head coach...
But an interim with no previous head coaching experience? If the ego could take it it, I could see a team & coach agree to it unless there had been closed door promises about the interim tag being permanent.
Read this in a tweet from a coaching expert this morning... Couldn't agree more:
"How outsiders assess whether a head coach is any good: wins.
How head coaches assess whether their peers are any good: scenario they walked into, coaching craft on display, over-performance vs expectations, difficulty of problems navigated, continuity of performance, etc."
Context.
Matters.
Period.
Same could be said of player evaluations...
Only tweak I'd add is to add "short-sighted pros" to the "outsiders" group.
"How outsiders assess whether a head coach is any good: wins.
How head coaches assess whether their peers are any good: scenario they walked into, coaching craft on display, over-performance vs expectations, difficulty of problems navigated, continuity of performance, etc."
Context.
Matters.
Period.
Same could be said of player evaluations...
Only tweak I'd add is to add "short-sighted pros" to the "outsiders" group.
I liked Vigneault. I'd rather have had him than Therrien or Julien. I don't think they should have fired him the first time. I remember him using 3 d against the Penguins. I don't think he could be faulted for losing to Buffalo with no goons, and really unfortunate officiating. Never seen a goalie get run into retirement while the megastar goalie at the other end draws penalties when someone plays the puck off his stick 20 feet out from his crease; period officiating where only stars got calls.
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So in a world where coaches are recycled...everywhere.....why wouldn't you recycle Bob Hartley for Montreal?
Bob Hartley as head coach. And if you are afraid of losing Bouchard or are about too if a non-head coaching job...give him an assistant-coaching job with the Habs.
Hartley-Burrows-Bouchard. That bench will never sleep.
Bob Hartley as head coach. And if you are afraid of losing Bouchard or are about too if a non-head coaching job...give him an assistant-coaching job with the Habs.
Hartley-Burrows-Bouchard. That bench will never sleep.
I think that outside of the coaching jobs you have to have real big biceps, so I guess it depends on what she can bench press relative to her weight class.
1909
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If Roy becomes GM, Benoit Groulx would be his choice. Groulx just signed an extension at AHL level with the TB org, though.
If Habs lose Bouchard to another org, they should sign Tourigny to coach in Laval.
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WinterLion
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my guess is that he gets an extra star on his crest... like becoming an assistant GM or some part of player development on top of being coach of Laval...
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Ducharme will get a 3 year deal after the playoffs. Everyone was so excited when we hired him & Bouchard... now we already hate him... how long would it take to hate Bouchard after we hire him?
JianYang
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Don't coaches typically only accept at least 4-5 year deals these days? The only time coaches seem to have leverage is when they are being recruited, so I don't blame them for demanding more than 3 years, given the volatility of that position.
I suppose Ducharme might not have as much leverage as your typical coach, but if the habs clearly target him as their top candidate, I feel he should still be able to squeeze out a 4 year term.
...if Bouchard finally puts in place a new direction and more of a "This Century" style of play, he'll be loved by most, if not all...it's the reliance on the same brand of hockey since Jacques Martin that most dislike Ducharme for right now...they all promise to be more in line with the NHL as it is now, but then immediately institute the same shyte hockey brand that has us spinning in mud since the 90's...
WinterLion
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What is the big difference between how the Habs play and most other teams from a coaching perspective?
WinterLion
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For my money Gainey was the best coach we have had in the last 20 years.... having Larauqe shadow Lucic was genius! 
