Speculation: Who takes over? (New Coaching Search Thread)

[Cyclones Rock]

I’d take Bedner.

So would I. I'd also take a million bucks.

 

[MoeBartoli]

So would I. I'd also take a million bucks.

He’ll want more.

 

[NotWendell]

The closest conceptual equivalent (we don't know if he'd have similar success) would be Malhotra.

Or Luke Richardson. There's something about Kevin Dineen I'm not quite sure about.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

He’ll want more.

Bednar spent 5 years as an assistant coach in the ECHL where he probably didn't make more than $25,000 per year plus his housing. I doubt that he ever made more than $50 grand as a player.

Jared Bednar Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com


I wouldn't be surprised if money isn't his primary consideration. He probably is still in disbelief at the amount of his current paycheck.

 

[KJ Dangler]

I'm in for Mike Vellucci. If you look up his roster on those teams he made avg players have career years. Not one nhl player on the team.

Year of seeing how pit is so successful. Hes ready

Put me down for Velucci as well . Tremendous track record of player development , as well as great success in every level he’s coached at .

 

[jacketsnation]

Jarmo please read these posts hahaha

#hire Velucci

 

[Byrral]

Doesn't have to be NHL experience but Jarmo better hire someone with head coaching experience.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Is Nate Leaman interested in jumping from the NCAA? Is his track record at Providence and some junior national team work enough?

He’s an Ohio native FWIW.

 

[CBJx614]

Bednar went out in round 3 last year and round 2 the previous year. He's not getting canned if they tank in this weird season's playoffs. He's won Championships in the ECHL and AHL as well. His playoff coaching acumen is not an issue.

In any case, why would an established NHL head coach who would have many options if fired come to a Tire Fire like the CBJ?

As others have mentioned but Hitchcock and Torts accepted positions with the team looking worse than it is today.

I would imagine coaches don't look at rosters the same way a potential FA signee might.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

As others have mentioned but Hitchcock and Torts accepted positions with the team looking worse than it is today.

I would imagine coaches don't look at rosters the same way a potential FA signee might.

I'd cite a few differences.

First, neither Torts nor Hitchcock had been passed over by the organization. Second, Torts had just come off of his disaster in Vancouver and had already been out of coaching over a year when the CBJ fired Richards early in the season. He may never have had another chance to coach in the NHL. Hitchcock had been fired by Philly a few games into the year he came to the CBJ. In both cases, there were no other openings available.

If a coach had a choice between coaching the CBJ or either the Colorado Avalanche or Edmonton Oilers, only a masochist would chose the CBJ.

 

[CBJx614]

I'd cite a few differences.

First, neither Torts nor Hitchcock had been passed over by the organization. Second, Torts had just come off of his disaster in Vancouver and had already been out of coaching over a year when the CBJ fired Richards early in the season. He may never have had another chance to coach in the NHL. Hitchcock had been fired by Philly a few games into the year he came to the CBJ. In both cases, there were no other openings available.

If a coach had a choice between coaching the CBJ or either the Colorado Avalanche or Edmonton Oilers, only a masochist would chose the CBJ.

Okay fair points in a hypothetical world. Sure a coach would pick Edmonton over us, but that's not the world we're living in. But it does bring up a good question, who are we competing with for a HC with this off season? Who is realistically going to fire their coach in the next few weeks or has done so already.

I'm genuinely asking because as far as I know right now all I've heard of is Seattle, AZ and CBJ. I'm sure there will be others though

 

[majormajor]

Okay fair points in a hypothetical world. Sure a coach would pick Edmonton over us, but that's not the world we're living in. But it does bring up a good question, who are we competing with for a HC with this off season? Who is realistically going to fire their coach in the next few weeks or has done so already.

I'm genuinely asking because as far as I know right now all I've heard of is Seattle, AZ and CBJ. I'm sure there will be others though

There will be more good coaches than job openings. I also agree with you, coaches don't shop for competitiveness the way top tier FAs do.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

If a coach had a choice between coaching the CBJ or either the Colorado Avalanche or Edmonton Oilers, only a masochist would chose the CBJ.

You think a person is going to have a choice between coaching those three organizations this off-season?

 

[Cyclones Rock]

You think a person is going to have a choice between coaching those three organizations this off-season?

My point was that roster quality matters.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

My point was that roster quality matters.

I mean, sure. But you don’t usually get the opportunity to just take your pick of rosters. And jobs with good rosters don’t usually come open. This roster might be the best that comes open this offseason. All that plus the ‘there are only 32 of these kinds of jobs.’

So while I agree with you in general, there are a lot of mitigating factors.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

I mean, sure. But you don’t usually get the opportunity to just take your pick of rosters. And jobs with good rosters don’t usually come open. This roster might be the best that comes open this offseason. All that plus the ‘there are only 32 of these kinds of jobs.’

So while I agree with you in general, there are a lot of mitigating factors.

All true. In most cases, an aspiring NHL coach or an out of work former NHL coach has one choice-if he's lucky. When Babcock left Detroit he had many options as would Brind'Amour if he opted out of Carolina. I can't recall the openings when Trotz was a free agent, but I doubt the NYI were his only option. In these cases, I would find it hard to fathom that roster strength wouldn't be a strong factor in determining where to go.

If I were a sought after NHL head coach and had the choice of the CBJ or Seattle, I'd be heading to Washington State in a heartbeat even though I'd much prefer living in Columbus than Seattle.

 

[MoeBartoli]

Bednar spent 5 years as an assistant coach in the ECHL where he probably didn't make more than $25,000 per year plus his housing. I doubt that he ever made more than $50 grand as a player.

Jared Bednar Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com


I wouldn't be surprised if money isn't his primary consideration. He probably is still in disbelief at the amount of his current paycheck.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

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We know that you'd go to the highest bidder, money bags

 

[majormajor]

If I were a sought after NHL head coach and had the choice of the CBJ or Seattle, I'd be heading to Washington State in a heartbeat even though I'd much prefer living in Columbus than Seattle.

That's funny, I'd prefer living in Seattle, but I think it would be easier to beat expectations in Columbus, they've gone that low. If Elvis puts up a .928 season, say hello to Jack Adams.

That and even though I'd prefer living in Seattle, I'll still need every bit of my $4m salary to afford some property.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

That's funny, I'd prefer living in Seattle, but I think it would be easier to beat expectations in Columbus, they've gone that low. If Elvis puts up a .928 season, say hello to Jack Adams.

That and even though I'd prefer living in Seattle, I'll still need every bit of my $4m salary to afford some property.

They'll be no Jack Adams award for the next CBJ coach next year. Dream on. Elvis is not Patrick Roy on steroids. .928 on the probable roster would be an impossibility.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

They'll be no Jack Adams award for the next CBJ coach next year. Dream on. Elvis is not Patrick Roy on steroids. .928 on the probable roster would be an impossibility.

Elvis had .916 on this years team. With some roster improvements and more games he could easily reach that number

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Elvis had .916 on this years team. With some roster improvements and more games he could easily reach that number

No he can't.

More games are probably a negative and you're saying that he could have a GAA which would be in the top 3 in the league. Not possible with this team.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

No he can't.

Good talk?

 

[punk_o_holic]

Anyone mention Lane Lambert? During the intermission in the Vegas game, their telecast had him as a possibility or a suggestion although they liked Bruce Boudreau. Said Boudreau is a offensive coach that could help Laine.

 

[majormajor]

Anyone mention Lane Lambert? During the intermission in the Vegas game, their telecast had him as a possibility or a suggestion although they liked Bruce Boudreau. Said Boudreau is a offensive coach that could help Laine.

Lambert's name came up somewhere.

And yes Boudreau is definitely on my list. Not just because of Laine, half the team needs to step up their scoring. Obviously his Caps team was loaded, but he got great scoring out of his later Anaheim and Minnesota teams too.