Speculation: Who should be the new GM of the Washington Capitals?

[Koized]

Who is MacLellan?

Our current assistant GM.

 

[third man in]

Who is MacLellan?

He was an assistant gm under McPhee

 

[Atlas]

Our current assistant GM.

Thanks.

Hell.

 

[txpd]

funny. I said the caps wouldn't get trotz because shero would hire trotz to replace bylsma. ha.

Now Trotz appears to be hiring Shero as gm. ha

on the other hand. is everyone really ok with trotz saying "no shero, no trotz"??

MacLellan would be more fun for meltdown watching than Fishman

 

[Koized]

Thanks.

Hell.

The one I would be worried about on that list is Button. With that said, I would be pretty surprised if it isn't Shero.

 

[Atlas]

The one I would be worried about on that list is Button. With that said, I would be pretty surprised if it isn't Shero.

Agreed. I mean, if Ted is even talking to Button I don't see how the Caps have any chance in the near future. Shero won a Cup. I'm not sure he's the best guy to build a franchise but maybe he is. Ted makes it hard to be optimistic about this team.

 

[Langway]

I think it's pretty clear that Dick Patrick is the one actually doing the leg work on these decisions.

 

[Atlas]

I think it's pretty clear that Dick Patrick is the one actually doing the leg work on these decisions.

Gadzooks!

 

[usiel]

‏@SkyKerstein: I'm hearing the same names @ChuckGormleyCSN wrote about today...Shero, Fenton, Button & the promoting of MacLellan (don't rule out) #Caps

Operation Shero Beautification.

@pensreport: Been told by person w/ the Pens & still close to him, it's expected Ray Shero will be offered the Capitals GM job. Bizarre for us in Pgh.

@pensreport: Also, the hold-up on the Trotz deal is apparently him making sure they've lined up Shero for GM. He wants that particular GM/HC combo.

Crazy. RE: Coach... with all the recent hires having no NHL head coaching experience I'm fine with Trotz. Just wondering if an old dog can embrace some nu. And keep Mahoney and Co..

 

[ChibiPooky]

Here's the Japers' Rink piece on Trotz, with links inside to some Nashville stuff.

What can we expect if Barry Trotz comes to Washington?

Throughout the offseason and into training camp, Predators Coach Barry Trotz has said he wants his team to get better at transitioning the puck, to focus on carrying the puck into the attack (rather than dumping it into the corner and chasing it down). During free agency, General Manager David Poile lauded the amount of shots (read our explanation of Corsi and its relationship to possession and success) his free-agent acquisitions produced and, in some cases, how well those new players carried the puck. It's an easy leap to make between [Eric] Tulsky's research, his relationship with the team and this new emphasis from the Predators decision-makers.

J.P. quoting J.R. Lind of the Nashville Post.

J.P.'s words (regarding same Nashville Post article):

the article and Trotz’s new-found interest in analytics immediately pre-date the 2013-14 season. Barry Trotz, it seems, has chosen "adapt" over "die."

 

[g00n]

Trotz is sounding like the polar opposite of Oates. Which is nice.

 

[txpd]

I think it's pretty clear that Dick Patrick is the one actually doing the leg work on these decisions.

I thought we wanted Patrick fired

 

[g00n]

I thought we wanted Patrick fired

Yeah 32 years on the job with no Cup and a string of baffling personnel decisions, I guess we're just being impatient. We can spend tomorrow editing our apology letters to DP for jumping the gun. Then we'll email Trotz and the new GM about a parade route on Tuesday.

Makes complete sense to ignore 32 years of failure in favor of the assumed succes of an unannounced hire. No conflict there. Nope.

 

[txpd]

Yeah 32 years on the job with no Cup and a string of baffling personnel decisions, I guess we're just being impatient. We can spend tomorrow editing our apology letters to DP for jumping the gun. Then we'll email Trotz and the new GM about a parade route on Tuesday.

Makes complete sense to ignore 32 years of failure in favor of the assumed succes of an unannounced hire. No conflict there. Nope.

so, we do want Patrick fired. thought so. I was not a big fan of shero and if Patrick hires him, then I should be critical. but I have been told I cant be. so I guess I will live with it.

meanwhile....we are learning things. Patrick is going to hire trotz who is a former cap coach. so it might be that it was not McPhee but Patrick that liked those legacy picks. and now that we know trotz is in a position to tell Patrick who he wants as gm....then.

but yea. I am not allowed to complain. go Patrick, go Trotz, go Team!! I am trying to get with the program here.

 

[Brian23]

Doesn't Patrick have an ownership stake? Can you even fire him...?

 

[Langway]

Ugh.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

That reads like:

I love facts when they are indeed facts, not someone's opinion. except when I disagree with them.

I am not interested in arguing with you about this. I will only say that epistemology does not need to be confusing. I wish you all the best.

Has nothing to do with disagreeing with your opinion. You stated "Ted just isn't an independent thinker. He does what he thinks will make the group happy". Unless you know the guy and are in the inner circle, it's just your opinion. Glad we've clarified that.

 

[RandyHolt]

If our GM demands full control of the team, who gives a rats ass about Patrick. He isn't going anywhere until he starts grooming a replacement e.g 99.

More than who our GM is, may be him demanding full control of the team. If you get your guy but he is just a pawn, BFD. It seems to be the trend in management, multiple layers and fans really having no idea who is calling the big shots.

 

[Atlas]

If our GM demands full control of the team, who gives a rats ass about Patrick. He isn't going anywhere until he starts grooming a replacement e.g 99.

More than who our GM is, may be him demanding full control of the team. If you get your guy but he is just a pawn, BFD. It seems to be the trend in management, multiple layers and fans really having no idea who is calling the big shots.

The chain of command does seem to change with the wind.

 

[FloridaCap]

Trotz is sounding like the polar opposite of Oates. Which is nice.

Yep. Oates tried to ram round pegs into square holes (and yes, I said that backwards on purpose, his system was terrible) and Trotz is open to just putting them where they fit.

Dump and chase game isn't working? MORE DUMP AND CHASE!

 

[RandyHolt]

The chain of command does seem to change with the wind.

I suspect its common for a GM to be stripped of duties but otherwise retained, to avoid all the publicity and uncertainty involved with change.

The GMs make the same salary and keep the same title. The bosses think they know it all, and definitely know they still need a GM so they are not the lightning rod. So they limit powers and do what the mouthpiece couldn't.

And then when THAT fails (think the Oates hire), the GM finally gets the ax.

My theory, every GM should have been fired before they were, and that a team never won a cup with the owner making GM decisions.

 

[g00n]

so, we do want Patrick fired. thought so. I was not a big fan of shero and if Patrick hires him, then I should be critical. but I have been told I cant be. so I guess I will live with it.

meanwhile....we are learning things. Patrick is going to hire trotz who is a former cap coach. so it might be that it was not McPhee but Patrick that liked those legacy picks. and now that we know trotz is in a position to tell Patrick who he wants as gm....then.

but yea. I am not allowed to complain. go Patrick, go Trotz, go Team!! I am trying to get with the program here.

You're trying WAY too hard.

 

[Atlas]

I suspect its common for a GM to be stripped of duties but otherwise retained, to avoid all the publicity and uncertainty involved with change.

The GMs make the same salary and keep the same title. The bosses think they know it all, and definitely know they still need a GM so they are not the lightning rod. So they limit powers and do what the mouthpiece couldn't.

And then when THAT fails (think the Oates hire), the GM finally gets the ax.

My theory, every GM should have been fired before they were, and that a team never won a cup with the owner making GM decisions.

It will be telling if Ted and Dick bring in an independent thinker who demands autonomy or a crony who is willing to submit to Ted and Dick's whims. The Caps haven't had many independent thinkers in the history of the team. Dale Hunter was. Bengt was as I remember. Poile should have been but wasn't. He should have quit before letting Scott Stevens go, for example.

 

[Liberati0n*]

Are there any interviews with Brian MacLellan online anywhere? Google says no. Internal hire, yeah, but I wonder what he's like. I'm really asserting my own primacy as an individual right now by being drunk #independenthinking #alissa

 

[Sam Spade]

I'm getting a little stressed that we haven't seen anymore tweets. The holiday causing the delay maybe?

Or as the Cap fan in me thinks, "The whole deal fell apart"!!!!