Who is on the verge of busting if they have a bad season in 2018/19?

[IPS]

Ivan Provorov is a good one IMO. He's shown no visible signs of improvement since being drafted and got exposed very badly against Pittsburgh. I think Philly might explore trade options with him if he doesn't show anything next season.

 

[Regal]

Ivan Provorov is a good one IMO. He's shown no visible signs of improvement since being drafted and got exposed very badly against Pittsburgh. I think Philly might explore trade options with him if he doesn't show anything next season.

 

[Erndog]

Ivan Provorov is a good one IMO. He's shown no visible signs of improvement since being drafted and got exposed very badly against Pittsburgh. I think Philly might explore trade options with him if he doesn't show anything next season.

What in the absolute.....??? [mod]

 

[nbwingsfan]

that's not what a bust is.

also a player who gets 20 es points in 4th line minutes probably isn't a 4th liner. no **** it's disappointing but it's not like he flamed out completely.

also just happened to post this in another thread

1. I don' know how many times it has to be shown that p/60 is one of the most ridiculous stats out there. I believe one season Athanasiou was like top 3 in the league for p/60 yet is nothing more than a 30-40pt player. Conor Sheath was also way up there as well.

Also Yes, a 6th overall pick who hasn't been able to put up even 30 points is definitely a bust.

 

[DaveG]

Elias Lindholm

He already has 2 40+ point seasons and 2 more of 39 points. Sure he's disappointing but that's a far cry from being a bust or even a Virtanen level disappointment, that's a solid middle 6 player level of play.

 

[Dogewow]

Alex Nylander

Yeah he definitely needs to put something together next year. Been disappointing thus far.

If he doesn’t put something together next year or at least show that he’s moving in the right direction (amazing AHL season with some NHL call ups) then it certainly won’t be looking good.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Ivan Provorov is a good one IMO. He's shown no visible signs of improvement since being drafted and got exposed very badly against Pittsburgh. I think Philly might explore trade options with him if he doesn't show anything next season.

Unless you think he was a legit top pairing dman when he was drafted, he's improved

 

[zharkenby]

Pavellllllllllllll Zacha!!!!

 

[YEM]

Ivan Provorov is a good one IMO. He's shown no visible signs of improvement since being drafted and got exposed very badly against Pittsburgh.

he did have the briefest period of regression in that series, but that could be explained by the fact that he was playing with A SEPARATED SHOULDER YOU NINNY!

 

[Koivu11]

Max Domi

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Nick Ritchie. Maybe not a bust but definitely a disappointment

Still waiting for Don Cherry to remind everyone again on how dumb the Leafs were for taking Nylander over him.

 

[tarheelhockey]

People listing guys who play 18-20 minutes a game as busts.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Max Domi

He was a 12th overall pick who's looking like he'll be a solid 50ish point player. Definitely no where near a bust, at all.

 

[McNuge]

Ivan Provorov is a good one IMO. He's shown no visible signs of improvement since being drafted and got exposed very badly against Pittsburgh. I think Philly might explore trade options with him if he doesn't show anything next season.

LMAO WHAT?!?!? He is one of the best young D in the entire league...

 

[holy]

Price isn't allowed to have a bad season. I think he'll bounce back hard though.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

that's not what a bust is.

also a player who gets 20 es points in 4th line minutes probably isn't a 4th liner. no **** it's disappointing but it's not like he flamed out completely.

also just happened to post this in another thread

that p60 stat doesn't take into consideration how hard it is to consistently produce with increased ice time, increased mental pressure, increased lactic acid etc.

This isn't NHL 18 where you can effortlessly play endless minutes night in night out 82+ times per year without feeling any type of physical and mental fatigue.

 

[StoneHands]

Ivan Provorov is a good one IMO. He's shown no visible signs of improvement since being drafted and got exposed very badly against Pittsburgh. I think Philly might explore trade options with him if he doesn't show anything next season.

I sincerely hope this is a joke. Provorov is a legit #1 defenseman at the age of 20/21. If he doesn't improve at all from his sophmore season he will still be a successful pick. Even if, for whatever reason he regresses and becomes a 2nd pairing defenseman, that's still not close to a bust.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Saying "stick him with the best offensive player in the league and he'll light it up" isn't exactly a testament to his talent. lol

The only player McDavid has made better was Maroon. It's not as easy as just putting someone next to him.

I feel like Honka needs to make it big next season or he's in trouble.

 

[StoneHands]

People listing guys who play 18-20 minutes a game as busts.

Someone mentioned Provorov who at 20/21 years old played 24 minutes a game for a playoff team lol.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

you're right. kinda embarrassing...

Don't worry, calling him a sure fire Rocket Richard winner wasn't much better

 

[DannyGallivan]

Don't worry, calling him a sure fire Rocket Richard winner wasn't much better

No, you can take that prediction to the bank.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

The only player McDavid has made better was Maroon. It's not as easy as just putting someone next to him.

I feel like Honka needs to make it big next season or he's in trouble.

Trust me, I've watched talented winger after talented winger try and fail to play alongside Crosby. I know it's not easy.

I just meant to say that saying "put him next to the best offensive player in the world and he'll produce" doesn't exactly say much for Poolparty

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

E. Svechnikov. Looked decent on the later half of his callup last year, but his AHL stats were putrid.

I still think he's an NHL player, but if he struggles to put up 25-30 points this year, I will resign all hope of him becoming a second liner.

 

[Romkey]

Ivan Provorov is a good one IMO. He's shown no visible signs of improvement since being drafted and got exposed very badly against Pittsburgh. I think Philly might explore trade options with him if he doesn't show anything next season.

Uhhhhh.....this a joke? Provorov is trending towards being an elite #1. If he got exposed against Pittsburgh it's probably because they have the best player in the world who can expose ANY d-man in the league.

 

[Josepho]

1. I don' know how many times it has to be shown that p/60 is one of the most ridiculous stats out there. I believe one season Athanasiou was like top 3 in the league for p/60 yet is nothing more than a 30-40pt player. Conor Sheath was also way up there as well.

Also Yes, a 6th overall pick who hasn't been able to put up even 30 points is definitely a bust.

that p60 stat doesn't take into consideration how hard it is to consistently produce with increased ice time, increased mental pressure, increased lactic acid etc.

This isn't NHL 18 where you can effortlessly play endless minutes night in night out 82+ times per year without feeling any type of physical and mental fatigue.

Well yeah, obviously it's not the ultimate determiner of talent but if a player has been given pretty lackluster minutes without overpowered linemates and still has produced well relative to his icetime there's definitely room for growth and he does deserve more opportunities. Sheary is also a really good player playing with the best player in the world it shouldn't be that surprising that he's high up there.

And a consistent bottom 6 contributer (probably a 3rd liner) should not be mentioned in the same breath as guys like Nail Yakupov and Kyle Beach -- those are true busts. Virtanen is a disappointment but if he continues this trajectory he's not gonna be a complete flop of a pick.