Speculation: Who do we target on D after OEL Buyout?
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the third pairing isn't the problem. you can plug some combination of hirose, wolanin, brisebois, burroughs, juulsen and maybe even johansson, woo and rathbone in there and probably be fine. sign someone like hagg or oesterle if you think you need a vet
the problem is finding partners for hughes and hronek. do they keep myers and hope he and hughes can look okay together? resign bear and wait until he's healthy? that still leaves hronek without a partner. you can't buyout oel and then pin all your hopes on hirose or wolanin being able to carry top 4 minutes
buying out oel only really makes sense if they have a plan to go after at least one and probably two top 4 guys either as free agents or in trade. for free agents you can pay graves what he wants, try to rehab klingberg or i guess sign orlov but that's really it. otherwise you're gambling on dumba or soucy or holl stepping up
i don't really like the trade options either. lots of older guys on bad contracts like sanheim and krug and guys that are good but will cost to acquire like hanifin, carlo and pesce. taking semi-cap dumps or castoffs like peeke or grzelcyk doesn't seem likely to work too well
I feel like Soucy is the best fit. 3x3?
We’d still need 2 top 4 D-man as Soucy is more of a #5.
We’d still need 2 top 4 D-man as Soucy is more of a #5.
If you have 3 legit Dmen, the 4th becomes legit by default.
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krutovsdonut
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cole is an interesting guess. he has history with the pens. logged a surprising amount of minutes last year. big durable guy.
dumoulin i see as more likely. the pens history is very recent. he's younger and bigger.
Brookbank
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If the plan was to create this cap space so we can sign a free agent, then we should have kept OEL for another year. Free agency is always just bad.
Maybe they have a hockey trade up their sleeve. Or maybe they are going to trade the 11th pick for a roster player
I feel like every year there’s a D-man who gets dealt for under market value by a team needing to make space. Like Schmidt, Toews, and Marino. Maybe we can take advantage of this type of deal.
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Pesce isn't worth including the 11th pick if that's what you're suggesting.
Some names to think about.
Assuming a trade is made before July 1st.
Bruins:
Short Term:
Matt Grzelcyk - LD - 29yo - 1y/3.68m
Derek Forbort - LD - 31yo - 1y/3.0m (8 NTC)
Jakub Zboril - LD/RD - 26yo - 1y/1.14m
Long Term:
Brandon Carlo - RD - 26yo - 4y/4.1m
Flames:
Short Term:
Noah Hanifin - LD - 26yo - 4.95m (8 NTC)
Chris Tanev - RD - 33yo - 4.5m (10 NTC)
Nikita Zadorov - LD/RD - 28yo - 3.75m
Oliver Kylington - LD/RD - 26yo - 1.5m
Long Term:
Rasmus Andersson - 26yo - 4.55m
Avalanche:
Long Term:
Samuel Girard - LD/RD - 25yo - 4y/5m
Bowen Bryam - LD/RD - 22yo - RFA
Blue Jackets:
Long Term:
Andrew Peeke - RD - 25yo - 3y/2.75m
Adam Boqvist - RD - 22yo - 2y/2.6m (RFA)
Jake Bean - LD/RD - 25yo - 1y/2.33m (RFA)
Kings:
Short Term:
Matt Roy - RD - 28yo - 1y/3.15m
Long Term:
Sean Durzi - LD/RD - 24yo - 1.7m (RFA)
Rangers:
Long Term:
Ryan Lindgrem - LD - 25yo - 1y/3.0m (RFA)
Braden Schneider - RD - 21yo - 1y/0.93m (RFA)
K'Andre Miller - LD - 23yo - RFA
Flyers:
Short Term:
Sean Walker - LD/RD - 28yo - 1y/2.65m
Long Term:
Travis Sanheim - LD - 27yo - 8y/6.25m
Penguins:
Long Term:
Marcus Pettersson - LD - 27yo - 2y/4.03m
P.O. Joseph - LD - 23yo - 1y/0.83m (RFA)
Blues:
Short Term:
Marco Scandella - LD - 33yo - 1y/3.28m (7 NTC)
Maple Leafs:
Short Term:
TJ Brodie - LD - 33yo - 1y/5.0m
Golden Knights:
Short Term:
Alec Martinez - LD - 35yo - 1y/5.25m (12 NTC)
Long Term:
Zach Whitecloud - RD - 26yo - 5y/2.75m
Nick Hagie - LD - 24yo - 2y/2.29m (RFA)
Kaedan Korczak - RD - 22yo - 1y/0.79m (RFA)
Jets:
Short Term:
Brenden Dillon - LD - 32yo - 1y/3.9m
Dylan DeMelo - RD - 30yo - 1y/3.0m (6 NTC)
Long Term:
Neal Pionk - RD - 27yo - 2y/5.86m
Assuming a trade is made before July 1st.
Bruins:
Short Term:
Matt Grzelcyk - LD - 29yo - 1y/3.68m
Derek Forbort - LD - 31yo - 1y/3.0m (8 NTC)
Jakub Zboril - LD/RD - 26yo - 1y/1.14m
Long Term:
Brandon Carlo - RD - 26yo - 4y/4.1m
Flames:
Short Term:
Noah Hanifin - LD - 26yo - 4.95m (8 NTC)
Chris Tanev - RD - 33yo - 4.5m (10 NTC)
Nikita Zadorov - LD/RD - 28yo - 3.75m
Oliver Kylington - LD/RD - 26yo - 1.5m
Long Term:
Rasmus Andersson - 26yo - 4.55m
Avalanche:
Long Term:
Samuel Girard - LD/RD - 25yo - 4y/5m
Bowen Bryam - LD/RD - 22yo - RFA
Blue Jackets:
Long Term:
Andrew Peeke - RD - 25yo - 3y/2.75m
Adam Boqvist - RD - 22yo - 2y/2.6m (RFA)
Jake Bean - LD/RD - 25yo - 1y/2.33m (RFA)
Kings:
Short Term:
Matt Roy - RD - 28yo - 1y/3.15m
Long Term:
Sean Durzi - LD/RD - 24yo - 1.7m (RFA)
Rangers:
Long Term:
Ryan Lindgrem - LD - 25yo - 1y/3.0m (RFA)
Braden Schneider - RD - 21yo - 1y/0.93m (RFA)
K'Andre Miller - LD - 23yo - RFA
Flyers:
Short Term:
Sean Walker - LD/RD - 28yo - 1y/2.65m
Long Term:
Travis Sanheim - LD - 27yo - 8y/6.25m
Penguins:
Long Term:
Marcus Pettersson - LD - 27yo - 2y/4.03m
P.O. Joseph - LD - 23yo - 1y/0.83m (RFA)
Blues:
Short Term:
Marco Scandella - LD - 33yo - 1y/3.28m (7 NTC)
Maple Leafs:
Short Term:
TJ Brodie - LD - 33yo - 1y/5.0m
Golden Knights:
Short Term:
Alec Martinez - LD - 35yo - 1y/5.25m (12 NTC)
Long Term:
Zach Whitecloud - RD - 26yo - 5y/2.75m
Nick Hagie - LD - 24yo - 2y/2.29m (RFA)
Kaedan Korczak - RD - 22yo - 1y/0.79m (RFA)
Jets:
Short Term:
Brenden Dillon - LD - 32yo - 1y/3.9m
Dylan DeMelo - RD - 30yo - 1y/3.0m (6 NTC)
Long Term:
Neal Pionk - RD - 27yo - 2y/5.86m
the one name that is interesting is andrew peeke. rhd 25yr old could be the perfect partner for hughes or hronek.. pesce is another interesting one as well if he doesn'tt resign in carolina. they need a 2C badly too. not gonna bother looking at the ufas probbaly out of vancouvers price range. also forgot about ethan bear. shoulder injury wont be back untll late december janaury 2024
Cancuks
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They would probably cost too much but I'd like Ryan Lindgren from the Rangers or Martin Fehérváry from the Caps. Ideal partners for Hronek and the right age.
My gut says Sanheim is the kind of player they target, but I have no idea of the price given that we'd be implicitly doing the Flyers a solid by ridding them of cap commitment during their rebuild (which they could use to further farm more assets). Basically anything we give up would feel like too much. Feels even worse in the context/fallout of OEL.
Other than that, I don't see them looking at a short term vet or anyone enticed by swapping for Garland/Boeser. They could swing for an RFA (Durzi?) using Hoglander/Podkolzin.
The only thing I know for sure is that by buying out OEL so early they've made the statement that they want to do something and utilize the cap space sooner than later.
No that’s not what I’m suggesting. Pesce would be delay because he wouldn’t sign whereas the others, that I referenced, were immediate need to dump salary type deals.
They could probably get both Sanheim and Laughton for the 11 OV + Myers. However I think we need to keep the first to rebuild the prospect pool.
I am really not sure Sanheim’s worth. He has good advanced stats but did not get along with Torts. If they want to dump the contract, it could be something like a late first or 2nd + prospect type value.
Could be a target if we decide to trade back in the first and pick up a second. 11OV and Myers for 19 OV + 44OV, then use 44OV + Rathbone for Sanheim and draft Simashev at 19.
Something similar might also make sense for Laughton instead of Sanheim.
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Just find me someone that can play shutdown minutes. I don't care if he gets 3 points a season, as long as he's a bastard to play against in our end.
I mean, it has to be Gudbranson and his 4 million/yr contract for another 3 years, right?
A big RHD that can skate and beat the tar out of anyone who even looks in Quinn’s direction…
I shouldn’t even joke about that knowing JR loves him.
How Canuck would it be to buy out OEL only to use the cap savings to turn around and make that trade?
A big RHD that can skate and beat the tar out of anyone who even looks in Quinn’s direction…
I shouldn’t even joke about that knowing JR loves him.
How Canuck would it be to buy out OEL only to use the cap savings to turn around and make that trade?
The Stig
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I like Schenner. I'm not sure he's a full blown shutdown guy. We need a penalty killer. A minute eating dman. What Tanev was. Hughes and Hronek can provide the offensive touch on the back end, we need a couple PKers that clear the zone.
Graves is a garbage player. 6’5 and nothing else. Mayfield, Orlov, Connor Murphy, Pesce, Peeke, Hanifin, Tanev, Weegar, Andersson are the players we should be going after.
Frankie Blueberries
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The OEL buyout makes the Chychun trade look even worse for us. Essentially the same thing we gave up for Hronek and would now fit a need.
MarkusNaslund19
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Chychrun is constantly injured and is a UFA at the end of this deal with only 2 years to go. Hronek is a better acquisition.
The Stig
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Who cares? The buyout is us putting the trade behind us. Everyone in the world knows the trade was a joke.
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Disagree, Hronek is only nice because he’s RHD. Chychrun gets injured a lot because he plays big minutes and blocks/hits a lot. His points last season look lower because Ghost was playing top PP minutes. Chychrun is a top 10 dman in this league imo.
