If Corey Crawford isnt on your list I’d like you to take a look at his career and hear your stupid reasons why.
Even Antti Niemi won with the Hawks.
If Corey Crawford isnt on your list I’d like you to take a look at his career and hear your stupid reasons why.
If Corey Crawford isnt on your list I’d like you to take a look at his career and hear your stupid reasons why.
lol.Fleury: First in Wins, First in SO, 19th is sv%, 6th in GAA. 100 games min.
Even Antti Niemi won with the Hawks.
Those are stupid or misguided enough for me thanks. He could have easily won the conn smythe one of those years. He carried the hawks for the years following their cups.Same reason Osgood never got any respect. Always put on the team in front, when Osgood was instrumental in 1998 and 2008 Cup Wins.
Those are stupid or misguided enough for me thanks. He could have easily won the conn smythe one of those years. He carried the hawks for the years following their cups.
Everyone has a personal bias and mine is Andrei Vasilevskiy. I have seen him play live a few times and he's amazing.
Even Antti Niemi won with the Hawks.
It may not exist if he's in Arizona. But if he played for Toronto, there would somehow be an argument that he should have already been inducted in the HHOF.Price’s eye test talent and the fact that he plays for one of the most popular teams in the league may overhype him a bit (does this thread even exist if he spent his career in Arizona?). His MVP season is certainly something he has over other goalies. That being said, he doesn’t separate himself statistically, only has 1 Vezina, and there are other goalies with superior playoff success. This is a hard ranking where you could make an argument for a number of guys.
Yes, thats essentially the point I was makingIt may not exist if he's in Arizona. But if he played for Toronto, there would somehow be an argument that he should have already been inducted in the HHOF.
I know people are gonna rip me because I follow the Leafs bandwagon but how is Price #1 if he hasn't won a single ring? Aren't there more goalies that have won rings in that decade? You as a goalie make the biggest impact on the team. So in theory shouldn't winning play a huge factor in rankings? When Price wins a ring, I think we could agree he's extremely top tier. But this argument is like saying Chris Paul is #1 point guard in the league since 2010 despite not winning a single ring so far.Who are the Top 10 Goalies since 2010 by an order?
Is Price undisputed #1?
Top 10 Goalies 2010-2021: GSAA
01. Rask - 129.39
02. Lundqvist - 100.34
03. Price - 93.26
04. Bishop - 85.87
05. Vasilevskiy - 68.64
06. Luongo - 67.84
07. Rinne - 66.2
08. Varlamov - 60.9
09. Crawford - 60.37
10. Lehner - 60.3
Top 10 Goalies 2010-2021: GSAx
01. Lundqvist - 215.97(!!!)
02. Gibson - 80.77
03. Halak - 77.87
04. Schneider - 60.32
05. Crawford - 55.02
06. Price - 53.01
07. Quick - 52.24
08. Holtby - 48.85
09. Bobrovsky - 44.79
10. Bishop - 42.26
Top 10 Goalies 2010-2021: dFSv%
01. Gibson - 0.8563
02. Lundqvist - 0.8145
03. Schneider - 0.3891
04. Hellebuyck - 0.36
05. Crawford - 0.348
06. Halak - 0.3108
07. Holtby - 0.2436
08. Rask - 0.2125
09. Quick - 0.1958
10. Fleury - 0.1658
Goalies that appear in all 3 categories:
Lundqvist
Price
Crawford
Goalies that appear in 2 of 3 categories
Rask
Gibson
Quick
Halak
Holtby
Bishop
I think that's 9 of your top 10 right there, and then you pick a 10th based on peak season? So probably Bobrovsky?
GLOSSARY
NOTE: I set the minimum games played to 300 games over the time frame (12 seasons). I felt this was a reasonable limit to eliminate outliers due to small sample, and two eliminate back-up goalies that played few games per season against selectively weaker competition.
NOTE 2: This is a pretty rudimentary run through. It speaks to who had the greatest cumulative impact overall, but doesn't speak to peaks or primes. To do that, I'd have to go in and look at 3 or 5 year chunks to see which goalies had the best, most impactful stretches within that time frame. Maybe I'll do it if I'm ever bored or wired and can't sleep.
Are those comprehensive #s, or regular season #s? Just for clarity's sake--I appreciate the work!
They're just regular season numbers.
I can take a look at playoff numbers, but the sample sizes for games played are so far over the map, I'm not sure the data would be any more relevant than simply isolating and weighing individual performances/runs to get a handle on playoff performance or impact.
That's just a guess. I could be wrong though, so I'll take a look out of curiosity when I have a chance.
Just curious! I agree, and I think it's probably more useful to attribute how those guys on the list fared in the playoffs IN ADDITION to this numbers rather than comprehensively.
Was just asking because Quick has a bit of a rep around here about being a playoff-only goalie (hell it comes up in this very thread) and I think some folks will be surprised to see his name on there as being pretty awesome over time, though he had some major peaks and valleys, with the valleys most often around injury. Will never forget the stories about him having to lay down in the aisle on the Kings plane because his back was so messed up in the 2012 playoffs. I always wonder what his rep would be if he were in a different market because it seems like the bullshit narrative stuck (he sucks in the regular season and only had one good playoff).