Which Tkachuk? Matthew vs Brady

[NyQuil]

I think Matthew is the better player right now.

Brady has more room for development though so it could be interesting in a couple of years.

 

[Just Linda]

Brady easily. He could be as good as Matthew one day.

Not so fast there, a Matthew is a Matthew but a Brady could be anything. It could be anything, it could even be a Matthew. You know how much I've always wanted a Matthew! Brady, I'll take the Brady.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Tkachuk put over over 30 goals on multiple occasions playing with Backlund and Frolik? Years before even playing with Gaudreau. And Tkachuk helps make Gaudreau better just as much as Gaudreau helps him to be better. Matthew takes care of the hard physical down low play and soft hands in close. While Gaudreau takes care of zone entries, creating separation and looking for seams for passing and creating High danger scoring chances.

Gaudreau shared a point on like 37 points with Tkachuk that season.

Brady is about to score 30 goals 65 points on the Ottawa Senators...

 

[Regal]

Tkachuk put over over 30 goals on multiple occasions playing with Backlund and Frolik? Years before even playing with Gaudreau. And Tkachuk helps make Gaudreau better just as much as Gaudreau helps him to be better. Matthew takes care of the hard physical down low play and soft hands in close. While Gaudreau takes care of zone entries, creating separation and looking for seams for passing and creating High danger scoring chances.

I think you mean once. He did it once. And averaged 26 goals per 82 games coming into this year even including that one season. Which incidentally is the same as what Brady has averaged in his career.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Sens fan here, gonna say the player closing in on 100 pts ainec?

 

[Keneeyo Fato Boiyo]

Gaudreau shared a point on like 37 points with Tkachuk that season.

Brady is about to score 30 goals 65 points on the Ottawa Senators...

Again Tkachuk put up 34 goals and 77 points playing with Backlund and Frolik. He has only played with Gaudreau for a season and a half.

Statically Matthew is ahead and I it's likely because he's slightly better than his younger brother. Only Brady's skating is better.

Matthew has a higher GPG and PPG average.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Again Tkachuk put up 34 goals and 77 points playing with Backlund and Frolik. He has only played with Gaudreau for a season and a half.

Statically Matthew is ahead and I it's likely because he's slightly better than his younger brother. Only Brady's skating is better.

Matthew has a higher GPG and PPG average.

Again, Gaudreau had a point on 37 of those 77 points.

Switch situations and it's Brady outscoring Matthew.

 

[TMLife17]

Flames won the 2016 draft so hard. Thanks Vancouver

 

[GeeoffBrown]

Matthew must've been having a rough time when this poll was posted. Was he suspended at the time LOL

 

[Keneeyo Fato Boiyo]

Again, Gaudreau had a point on 37 of those 77 points.

Switch situations and it's Brady outscoring Matthew.

Where are you pulling these stats from? I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just curious which site breaks down prior seasons goals and assists on a game per game basis? Because Tkachuk didn't typically play with Gaudreau until Sutter took over. He typically has always played with Backlunds line and then got some PP time with Gaudreau.

 

[Keneeyo Fato Boiyo]

Matthew must've been having a rough time when this poll was posted. Was he suspended at the time LOL

He just had a down year last year and people already were foolishly writing him off. But the whole team were bad last year and clearly poorly coached.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Where are you pulling these stats from? I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just curious which site breaks down prior seasons goals and assists on a game per game basis? Because Tkachuk didn't typically play with Gaudreau until Sutter took over. He typically has always played with Backlunds line and then got some PP time with Gaudreau.

My mistake, I was lazily referencing a stat someone else provided which it turns out is way wrong.

Matthew is a very good player, a ~70 point player on his own. Offensively he's always going to be a bit better than Brady, but it's not nearly as big of a margin as their point totals would suggest. But Brady brings a lot of other elements, most important is how much better he manages the puck.

 

[Keneeyo Fato Boiyo]

My mistake, I was lazily referencing a stat someone else provided which it turns out is way wrong.

Matthew is a very good player, a ~70 point player on his own. Offensively he's always going to be a bit better than Brady, but it's not nearly as big of a margin as their point totals would suggest. But Brady brings a lot of other elements, most important is how much better he manages the puck.

Ahh I see no worries dude.
And yeah that's fair. And I fully agree Brady is also a very solid player. It would be amazing if they both played for the same team.

Just seems like though from what I've seen from both players that Matthew has slightly better offensive instincts. But can't go wrong with either player imo

 

[ESH]

Where are you pulling these stats from? I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just curious which site breaks down prior seasons goals and assists on a game per game basis? Because Tkachuk didn't typically play with Gaudreau until Sutter took over. He typically has always played with Backlunds line and then got some PP time with Gaudreau.

Matthew Tkachuk 2018-19 Scoring Log | Hockey-Reference.com

Scoring for Matthew Tkachuk for 2018-19

www.hockey-reference.com

You can find this information for any player. Gaudreau only contributed to 19 of Tkachuk’s points that year.

 

[LeProspector]

Matthew but its real close. Both players are almost clones of each other.

I’ll put it this way. If Matthew played on the Senators. He wouldn’t have 100 points. Not even close.

Brady is also going to have the better contract. We’ll see how things play out however.

 

[olli]

Again, Gaudreau had a point on 37 of those 77 points.

Switch situations and it's Brady outscoring Matthew.

Assuming a 60ish point player elsewhere would automatically put up 90 points playing w graft ray is not how things work lol.

 

[Jets012]

Matthew Tkachuk is one of, if not the most underrated player in the league. Absolutely incredible player

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Assuming a 60ish point player elsewhere would automatically put up 90 points playing w graft ray is not how things work lol.

I assume you mean Gaudreau?

And actually, that makes complete sense based on the long history of players getting huge production bumps while playing with Gaudreau.

Also, Brady is pacing for 67 points.

 

[Paris in Flames]

Matthew all 7 days a week.

 

[olli]

I assume you mean Gaudreau?

And actually, that makes complete sense based on the long history of players getting huge production bumps while playing with Gaudreau.

Also, Brady is pacing for 67 points.

Dawg 90+ points is never a given.

 

[DropIt]

Is Whiskey finding a new victim? First it was Monahan and now we are starting on MT?

Guys that arent good unless playing with Johnny Gaudreau?

This is so obviously Matt Tkachuk. Dont get me wrong Brady is great and Id gladly take him on my team but MT by a mile

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Is Whiskey finding a new victim? First it was Monahan and now we are starting on MT?

Guys that arent good unless playing with Johnny Gaudreau?

This is so obviously Matt Tkachuk. Dont get me wrong Brady is great and Id gladly take him on my team but MT by a mile

1. Turns out I was absolutely right about Monahan.
2. Matthew is a legit first line player, 30g 70p winger. World's better than Monahan. But he's not a 100 point player without playing with someone like Gaudreau.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

1. Turns out I was absolutely right about Monahan.
2. Matthew is a legit first line player, 30g 70p winger. World's better than Monahan. But he's not a 100 point player without playing with someone like Gaudreau.

Agreed, both Tkachuk’s are complementary players. They are guys that can drive the offence on their own.

 

[DropIt]

1. Turns out I was absolutely right about Monahan.
2. Matthew is a legit first line player, 30g 70p winger. World's better than Monahan. But he's not a 100 point player without playing with someone like Gaudreau.

Tkachuk likely does not hit 100 points without a Gaudreau, but he has hit 100 points which Brady has not.

He has also eclipsed your 70 point mark twice and was on pace to do it once over the past 4 seasons. So labelling him as such is ridiculous.

Brady on the other hand has never ecplised 70, or came realistically close to it (this season pending).
brady and Matt both have traits that trump the others, but Brady doesnt bring anything to make up for the 40 point gap this season, let alone the gap that seems to exist seemingly every season

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Tkachuk likely does not hit 100 points without a Gaudreau, but he has hit 100 points which Brady has not.

He has also eclipsed your 70 point mark twice and was on pace to do it once over the past 4 seasons. So labelling him as such is ridiculous.

Brady on the other hand has never ecplised 70, or came realistically close to it (this season pending).
brady and Matt both have traits that trump the others, but Brady doesnt bring anything to make up for the 40 point gap this season, let alone the gap that seems to exist seemingly every season

Matthew averaged 29 goals 72 points per 82 games over the prior 3 years... but calling him a ~30g ~70p player is ridiculous?