They have other guys to make up for him? Letang? Kris Letang, French Canadian guy with great hair, that Kris Letang?
Absolutely. Frankly this is the first I even realized he was out.
Which team has faced more adversity? [Pens or Preds?]
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They have other guys to make up for him? Letang? Kris Letang, French Canadian guy with great hair, that Kris Letang?
Absolutely. Frankly this is the first I even realized he was out.
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The penguins have to play a different game without Letang. Everything has to change. They can still do it and be successful because of their up front talent... but if you take a forward away, even a crosby... the team with Letang can still play a certain way.
Without letang - everything has to change.
Without letang - everything has to change.
Pens fans are going to kill you guys but I agree. I've been saying for years we need to trade Letang. We won our only playoff game without him last year and got all the way to SCF this year. He's obviously not as big of a piece as some fans on here think.
What kills us is they could trade him for a player equal to his skill level and could be on the ice and not injured all the time. That's where I see the adversity. I would have taken Letang for PK straight up and you know the Habs would have done that but the Pens will never trade injured Letang for some reason.
Nashville
Wilson missed the entire CHI series.
Smith and Aberg missed the STL series. Fiala broke his femur in Game 1.
Smith and Fiala missed the ANH series with Joey and Fisher missing the last 2 games
Two top 6 forwards sustaining season ending (career threatening) injuries.
Have used 18 forwards so far!
Wilson missed the entire CHI series.
Smith and Aberg missed the STL series. Fiala broke his femur in Game 1.
Smith and Fiala missed the ANH series with Joey and Fisher missing the last 2 games
Two top 6 forwards sustaining season ending (career threatening) injuries.
Have used 18 forwards so far!
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I would say Nashville just because of relative expectations. Even injured, Pens were expected to make a very deep run. Nashville were expected to get bounced in the first round, so it would be easier for even a relatively small piece of "adversity" to shake their confidence. But they got a lot more than a small amount of adversity and kept winning.
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Predators by a country mile. They've had to go through Chicago, St. Louis and Anaheim and they've done it as a 16th seed. Meanwhile everyone's trashing Ottawa about what an easy team they are, that DC is a bunch of chokers and the CBJ proved that their unbeaten streak is what got them into the playoffs. Fiala broke his leg and Nashville is down their best forward. And now to win the damn thing they gotta face the team with the 2nd best record in the league who also happen to be the defending champions. The Penguins are missing Letang from their ridiculously stacked roster and had to deal with MAF remembering he's MAF so then the Pens deferred to their to other Stanley Cup winning goaltender.
How is this even a discussion?
Penguins have dealt with more injuries but in the context of adversity it has not hindered them.
How is this even a discussion?
Penguins have dealt with more injuries but in the context of adversity it has not hindered them.
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Uhh what?
Letang (out for the year)
Schultz (5 GMS)
Ruhwedel (3 GMS)
Hornqvist (6 GMS)
Daley (4 GMS)
Hagelin (8 GMS)
Rust (2 GMS)
Wilson (4 GMS)
Kunitz (5 GMS)
Corsby (2 GMS)
Sheary (2 GMS)
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Corsby must be, I have never heard of him!
Both teams have dealt with adversity and injuries.
I know right? I mean missing Schultz and Daley while also missing Letang... yep, just nothing players.
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OMG please let the ******* game start already. Just another pissing contest thread about who's **** is longer.
Both teams have faced adversity of varying degrees. You can debate and debate until the cows come home, but until either team skates a mile in the other's boots there will never be a definitive answer.
Preds have guys hurt....so do the Pens. We can argue who is more important to their team, but in actuality they have all been important for one reason or another or they wouldn't have been in the lineup.
Both teams had to play the best teams in their respective conferences to get here. Draw
The only adversity that is not up for debate is that Nashville has had to play every series on the road. And even in that I'm not sure it's been adversity. I think it has actually allowed Nashville to get their heads in the game and limit the distractions more on the road than it would at home. So even that has not been adversity.
All I can say is thank God the games start tomorrow night and we'll all have something like actual hockey games to **** and moan about.
Both teams have faced adversity of varying degrees. You can debate and debate until the cows come home, but until either team skates a mile in the other's boots there will never be a definitive answer.
Preds have guys hurt....so do the Pens. We can argue who is more important to their team, but in actuality they have all been important for one reason or another or they wouldn't have been in the lineup.
Both teams had to play the best teams in their respective conferences to get here. Draw
The only adversity that is not up for debate is that Nashville has had to play every series on the road. And even in that I'm not sure it's been adversity. I think it has actually allowed Nashville to get their heads in the game and limit the distractions more on the road than it would at home. So even that has not been adversity.
All I can say is thank God the games start tomorrow night and we'll all have something like actual hockey games to **** and moan about.
Corsby must be, I have never heard of him!
Both teams have dealt with adversity and injuries.
i've heard of him, something about dropping the ball
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Pens are going to be awarded 3 Cups after they beat us. The Winner on Paper Cup, the Most Adversity on Paper Cup and then the actual Cup. But really, why even bother with the latter at this point, the guesswork has already been done for us.
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This. When we beat Chicago the talk was about how big and fast St Louis was and that we would never make it past them. Then it was the Ducks that were no joke and everyone was calling for them to easily blow us out and go to the Finals. It seems like after every series we just beat a nobody team and it's no big deal. **** that.
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QFT.
The Preds lost Johansen - who might not be as good at his position is than Letang is at his, but the Preds are weakest at this position.
The Pens don't have Letang for the entire playoffs - who might not be as good a player as Malkin or Crosby, but the Pens are weakest at this position.
Both teams are dealing with crap injury luck and lots of adversity.... ok?
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Preds.
Funny part is, I watched pretty much every PIT game this playoffs b/c they're entertaining. Getting pass CBJ I expected, WSH I did not. Especially without Letang, and going up against the Caps roster this year which was also stacked. Just goes to show how hungry PIT is to repeat as champs. OTT was a battle in itself, one which I though PIT would win even though as a Canadian, I was bias to cheer for OTT. This series could've gone either way.
But, the Preds beat the Hawks. Pretty much dummied that team, a team who I would have bet on to win the SC. Than STL, a big, strong, fast ... pretty much a western conference typical team. Hard, grind game. NSH beat them too, now ANA I did not think NSH could beat. ANA is the only team, other than CHI that I would've placed money on to win the SC. Again NSH found a way to win.
If I had to make some sort of rough rank of the eliminated teams:
CHI
WSH
ANA
STL/OTT/CBJ
Again, I'd say the Preds, based solely on my own personal opinion of their opponents.
Funny part is, I watched pretty much every PIT game this playoffs b/c they're entertaining. Getting pass CBJ I expected, WSH I did not. Especially without Letang, and going up against the Caps roster this year which was also stacked. Just goes to show how hungry PIT is to repeat as champs. OTT was a battle in itself, one which I though PIT would win even though as a Canadian, I was bias to cheer for OTT. This series could've gone either way.
But, the Preds beat the Hawks. Pretty much dummied that team, a team who I would have bet on to win the SC. Than STL, a big, strong, fast ... pretty much a western conference typical team. Hard, grind game. NSH beat them too, now ANA I did not think NSH could beat. ANA is the only team, other than CHI that I would've placed money on to win the SC. Again NSH found a way to win.
If I had to make some sort of rough rank of the eliminated teams:
CHI
WSH
ANA
STL/OTT/CBJ
Again, I'd say the Preds, based solely on my own personal opinion of their opponents.
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I just didn't understand what everyone saw in Chicago. No depth on that team and they were clearly outmatched by the Preds on paper.
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Who the $&@$ cares? Geez oh man both are pretty great stories. Enjoy the final... gametime cannot get here quick enough
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For sure, on paper I take the Preds b/c personally I rate Def > Off.
But.. CHI is a different animal in the playoffs, they're beast. Having watched Kane/Toews in their prime (09-15) rip other teams in the playoffs is what separates CHI from most teams in the league. Those two alone, can change a game in a single shift. It's terrifying if you're desperately holding onto a lead, in the final 30 sec in your zone and you have Kane or Toews with the puck. They may snipe it, pass it, have some stupid luck play work for them.. their patience is unreal they've been there done that x100.
Did they do that this year against the Preds? No.. but if these two teams versed again, next year, exact same roster. I would still favour Chi, followed very closely by NSH. Kane/Toews are just too clutch, only other duo I take over them in the playoffs are Geno/Sid.
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I feel like people have a different definition of adversity than I do. To me, facing Chicago is not "facing adversity" - It's playing a really good team. Adversity is losing your starting goalie in warm ups before game 1. Adversity is losing your #2 and #3 defensemen after your #1 is out for the entire playoffs. Adversity is watchig your captain lay motionless on the ice after being crosschecked in the face.
Preds have faced adversity too: injuries to Fisher, Johansen, and Fiala being at the top of the list. I think someone earlier stated it correctly: up to this point it's been the Pens by quite a lot, but if the Preds win the Cup, I will say them. Seems like the Pens have been getting healthy and have come through most of their issues, while the Preds are still figuring out how to deal with the adversity they will have to overcome.
Preds have faced adversity too: injuries to Fisher, Johansen, and Fiala being at the top of the list. I think someone earlier stated it correctly: up to this point it's been the Pens by quite a lot, but if the Preds win the Cup, I will say them. Seems like the Pens have been getting healthy and have come through most of their issues, while the Preds are still figuring out how to deal with the adversity they will have to overcome.
