Which team has faced more adversity? [Pens or Preds?]

[FinProspects]

Pens missed their #1 dmen before the playoffs.
Pens lost their #1 goalie in the warmup of the 1st playoff game.
Pens lost their #1 center in the middle of Wsh series for one game and still won.
I dont know the stats but Pens have probably had the most injuries (lost man-games) in this season in all NHL.

This team is all about the adversity. The most resilient group of guys ive ever seen to be honest. Kudos to Sullivan, who seems to be very, very good on the mental side of things. They have seen a LOT, and Ottawa-series was again one more battle that they won.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Pens missed their #1 dmen before the playoffs.
Pens lost their #1 goalie in the warmup of the 1st playoff game.
Pens lost their #1 center in the middle of Wsh series for one game and still won.
I dont know the stats but Pens have probably had the most injuries (lost man-games) in this season in all NHL.

This team is all about the adversity. The most resilient group of guys ive ever seen to be honest. Kudos to Sullivan, who seems to be very, very good on the mental side of things. They have seen a LOT, and Ottawa-series was again one more battle that they won.

We also missed Rust, Hornqvist, Hagelin, Ruhwedel, and Schultz for parts of this year's playoffs too in addition to Letang and Murray. Letang we didn't have at all.

If people want to know who faced more adversity, this one is a no contest. Pens have gone through some ridiculous injury issues and it's not even some conditioning crap or some stupid thing like that, just freak things.

 

[Riptide]

Pens missed their #1 dmen before the playoffs.
Pens lost their #1 goalie in the warmup of the 1st playoff game.
Pens lost their #1 center in the middle of Wsh series for one game and still won.
I dont know the stats but Pens have probably had the most injuries (lost man-games) in this season in all NHL.

This team is all about the adversity. The most resilient group of guys ive ever seen to be honest. Kudos to Sullivan, who seems to be very, very good on the mental side of things. They have seen a LOT, and Ottawa-series was again one more battle that they won.

I can't remember if we had the most man games lost, but we were in the top 3-5. Given that we were still the 2nd best team in the league over the regular season... that's pretty damn impressive. We had 8 regulars miss at least 20 games (Letang, Maatta, Rust, Malkin, Sheary, Hagelin, Daley & Kuhnhackl).

Here's the list of guys who've missed games in the playoffs so far. Given the quality of those players... that's pretty impressive seeing that they've made the finals.

Letang (out for the playoffs)
Schultz (5 GMS)* technically only 4 games... but got hurt 5 shifts into the game
Ruhwedel (3 GMS)
Hornqvist (6 GMS)
Daley (4 GMS)
Hagelin (8 GMS)
Rust (2 GMS)
Wilson (4 GMS)
Kunitz (5 GMS)
Corsby (2 GMS)* technically only 1 game... but got hurt 3 shifts into the game
Sheary (2 GMS)

 

[The Shovel Penguin]

The Pens have been through so many injuries this year it's actually something I've gotten completely used to.

 

[MoeManthaMustache]

Letang seems a bit silly of an adversity point considering he's usually not playing anyway. It's not like he had had a great long season and boom game 1 he goes down or somethin'. Penguins are used to playing without him.

They are, but he is a catalyst in this offense. For 25 minutes he controls the flow out of the zone... and the things that he can do allow the forwards to press and use their speed closer to the opponent's net.

The team can play a different game with him in the lineup.

 

[Finesse]

If Johansen was in the lineup, I'd definitely say that the Preds will win. It seems to me that Pittsburgh thinks that they can coast through another the Cup.

Last year was 6 games vs San Jose. This series will go to 7, I'm very sure.

What???

 

[Legionnaire11]

Preds fan saying the Pens have faced a bit more adversity during their run.

However, too many posters are saying the Preds only had to overcome Johansen's injury...

At times and for stretches they've been without...

Ryan Johansen
Mike Fisher
Kevin Fiala
Craig Smith
Pontus Aberg
Miikka Salomaki

The injuries to Johansen and Fiala have cause the team to change their whole approach to the game from attacking with speed to all out defense and hope for a counter attack here and there, which will definitely have to be the plan against the Penguins.

 

[hooverdam]

HF in 2016: Letang was robbed of the Conn Smythe! He was crucial to the Penguins and they don't win without him!

Also HF, in 2017: I mean do they even miss Letang? I just assume he's always injured LMAO. When has he ever helped them??

 

[Syrinx]

If Johansen was in the lineup, I'd definitely say that the Preds will win. It seems to me that Pittsburgh thinks that they can coast through another the Cup.

Last year was 6 games vs San Jose. This series will go to 7, I'm very sure.

Please just stop. The bolded is ridiculous. You're trying to start a narrative and there is no basis for it.

 

[Syrinx]

When is Fisher expected back?

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Pens easily.

 

[preds1]

The Preds have faced adversity by losing one player? k

Joey
Fisher
Fiala
Smith

 

[Syrinx]

I didn't know it was a contest.

On top of the Adversity Cup, Louis Vuitton is going to show up and do a "Who wore it better" regarding the yellow. The commissioner has cancelled the anthem contest because his favorite team didn't have a shot this year.

 

[hooverdam]

Please just stop. The bolded is ridiculous. You're trying to start a narrative and there is no basis for it.

Is it really a Pens series if the other team doesn't position themselves as an aggrieved scrappy underdog hero just trying to get by against the evil empire (while also somehow maintaining the notion that their team is much better than the Penguins and will without a doubt beat them)?

This is the same **** everyone else tried to pull, including the President's Trophy winners, the WCF winners last year, the team that had just been to the SCF the year before, a completely healthy 100+ point team, and a relatively healthy team that had the easiest schedule in the playoffs.

Everyone is a lovable little underdog facing off against the Goliath (that doesn't have its 1D and has missed key players every single playoff game), and oh yeah they're totally going to beat them because the Pens suck. It's incredible.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Why are people pointing to Chi as a cup contender but ignoring the Presidents winner as a contender?

That's... weird.

 

[SlapshotMe]

I really don't want to hear about Penguin injuries unless that player is Crosby or Malkin. The Predators lost their best player.

 

[SouthNash]

Is this a contest for the Stanley Cup or to see who has the most booboos??

 

[hooverdam]

I really don't want to hear about Penguin injuries unless that player is Crosby or Malkin. The Predators lost their best player.

Then I don't want to hear about how the Preds defense will crush the Pens because they have four Erik Karlssons and the Pens are icing a beer league defense in comparison.

You can't have it both ways.

 

[drwpreds]

The Preds have faced adversity by losing one player? k

Preds are missing 4 of their top 9 forwards- not one player

 

[Legionnaire11]

Then I don't want to hear about how the Preds defense will crush the Pens because they have four Erik Karlssons and the Pens are icing a beer league defense in comparison.

You can't have it both ways.

The only person who says the Preds have four Karlssons is Kris Letang

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I really don't want to hear about Penguin injuries unless that player is Crosby or Malkin. The Predators lost their best player.

Ya that Letang guy only logged 30 mins a night last playoffs and scored the cup winning goal.

No big loss.

 

[SlapshotMe]

Ya that Letang guy only logged 30 mins a night last playoffs and scored the cup winning goal.

No big loss.

Letang season points: 34
RJo season points: 61

Yep, by comparison no big loss. Agree there. Unless you lose one of your top 2 you're fine.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Ya that Letang guy only logged 30 mins a night last playoffs and scored the cup winning goal.

No big loss.

It is one of the biggest reasons why up until three games ago when Sully cracked Boucher's system like an egg shell and Boucher had no counter that the Pens had been outshot in every game but one. Washington had 50 percent more shots than the Pens. Sully has done an amazing job making up for the loss, but to minimize how important a healthy Letang is to the Pens as many do in this thread is mind boggling.

 

[SlapshotMe]

Then I don't want to hear about how the Preds defense will crush the Pens because they have four Erik Karlssons and the Pens are icing a beer league defense in comparison.

You can't have it both ways.

We got outplayed in both games without RJo, unless this Sissons thing is more than a flash in the pan I expect to lose.

 

[hooverdam]

Letang season points: 34
RJo season points: 61

Yep, by comparison no big loss. Agree there. Unless you lose one of your top 2 you're fine.

Because Letang had nothing to do with all the points Malkin and Crosby scored. It's not like he's the biggest possession driver on the team or anything.

Hockey is tough for you to think about beyond a very basic level, isn't it?