Where does MacKinnon rank among centers?

[Muffin]

That's an odd thing to say considering Barkov is the superior puck handler and the goal wasn't even that amazing.

@2:17

Barkov doesn't have to speed to pull that off.

 

[Slap]

Barkov doesn't have to speed to pull that off.

Are we watching the same clip? There was no super sonic speed involved in that goal.
Big = slow meme needs to go, Barkov is a fine skater.

 

[Muffin]

Are we watching the same clip? There was no super sonic speed involved in that goal.
Big = slow meme needs to go, Barkov is a fine skater.

Never said he's a bad skater. He's definitely not a bad skater but MacKinnon is an elite skater. Funny you say that too, the main reason MacKinnon started breaking out this season is mainly because he figured out you don't have to go Mach speed everytime you get the puck, he's changing up his speed and it's given him way more room on the ice.

 

[Slap]

Never said he's a bad skater. He's definitely not a bad skater but MacKinnon is an elite skater.

Okay. Just seems weird to see someone announce Barkov will NEVER score a goal like that in your clip, when in fact he has scored much prettier goals in much higher speeds already.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Shooting at 14.6%

Career shooting percentage is 8.6%

Probably due for a bit of a regression, but he's still absolutely an elite center.

 

[Mighty Makar]

MacKinnon at $6.3M or Draisaitl at $8.5M?

 

[Tripod]

MacKinnon at $6.3M or Draisaitl at $8.5M?

This is what happens when one guy has 52 points coming off his ELC and the other has 77.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

That's an odd thing to say considering Barkov is the superior puck handler and the goal wasn't even that amazing.

@2:17

LOL

 

[tucker3434]

Shooting at 14.6%

Career shooting percentage is 8.6%

Probably due for a bit of a regression, but he's still absolutely an elite center.

14.6% isn’t that high. 8.6% is pretty low for an elite center. In the past he’d just kinda shoot from anywhere. He’d enter the zone, curl, fire from the top of the circle. This season, he’s attacking the defender. Either the puck gets knocked away, or he ends up with a shot from 5-10ft away.

He’s got more confidence now, which I guess isn’t surprising considering the results of last season.

 

[adsfan]

Crosby
McDavid
Matthews
Stamkos
Schiefele
Tavares
Kopitar
Seguin
Barkov
Malkin
Eichel
Backstrom
Toews
Johansen
Bergeron

That's 15.


Than you have guys like
Zetterberg
Thornton
Giroux
Couture
Koivu
Couturier
Kuznetsov
Draisaitl

I'm not saying the first 15 are all definitely way ahead of McKinnon - but at the end of last year a strong case could be made that they were. And i left out a lot of other centers with a hot start this year.

Sorry but he's nowhere near top 10C currently. Top 15 is pushing it.

I'm actually pretty high on McKinnon overall and I think he can become a top 5 c in the league, but he simply hasn't yet. He seems to be off to a great start this year, which is fantastic, but i want to see more than a 23 game sample size before I rank him ahead of many of these other guys.

You left out Kyle Turris (+7) He is that guy in Nashville averaging a point a game for the team leading the Western Conference. Of course Filip Forsberg (+7) is also averaging a point a game for Nashville. You do have Johansen (+5) on your list, which is good, he is the Predators #2 Center with 31 pts in 29 games.

MacKinnon has 38 pts in 32 games, but is a -2 on the season. That is hard to believe.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

Okay. Just seems weird to see someone announce Barkov will NEVER score a goal like that in your clip, when in fact he has scored much prettier goals in much higher speeds already.

i think it's safe to say you completely missed the point.

 

[tucker3434]

You left out Kyle Turris (+7) He is that guy in Nashville averaging a point a game for the team leading the Western Conference. Of course Filip Forsberg (+7) is also averaging a point a game for Nashville. You do have Johansen (+5) on your list, which is good, he is the Predators #2 Center with 31 pts in 29 games.

MacKinnon has 38 pts in 32 games, but is a -2 on the season. That is hard to believe.

If he’s making a list of guys that are potentially better than MacKinnon, I don’t think you’ll get many arguing in favor of Turris.

And is it really? The Avs are a minus 6 goal differential. The preds are a plus 23. Comparing plus minus of players between the two teams is pointless.

 

[BKarchitect]

You left out Kyle Turris (+7) He is that guy in Nashville averaging a point a game for the team leading the Western Conference. Of course Filip Forsberg (+7) is also averaging a point a game for Nashville. You do have Johansen (+5) on your list, which is good, he is the Predators #2 Center with 31 pts in 29 games.

MacKinnon has 38 pts in 32 games, but is a -2 on the season. That is hard to believe.

Johansen has 20 points in 29 games. Not sure where you are getting your stats from. Turris has been great in Nashville. He's not better than MacKinnon. Don't care how many plus/minus stats you want to rattle off. He's probably better than Duchene though, I'll give you that!

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

It's not just the points or the highlight reel goals, it's just how plain dominant he is on the ice.

Yeah, he's effectively scored a highlight reel goal in 4/5 of his last games played.










Not to mention the number of posts, highway robberies, and blatantly missed penalties on him that stopped sure goals in the last week.


He could easily have scored 4 against the Panthers on Thursday and 3 against the Lightning last night.


Kid is the real deal and I'm not sure there's a better player in the NHL right now.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

MacKinnon at $6.3M or Draisaitl at $8.5M?

mack all day

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

He's not that good. He can't shoot the puck. He's McDavid lite. Less speed, less skills, less hockey smarts

lol

You say say this about anyone in this league when you compare with McDavid. MacK is stronger than McDavid though. He is beast.

 

[traffic cone]

Below Barkov.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

I've always thought MacKinnon has top 10 potential in the entire league, not just at centre.

 

[Ivan13]

14 goals, 33 points in 22 games. At the moment one of the hottest players in the NHL.

 

[the_fan]

I don't get it, what is that Barkov highlight reel suppose to prove? that he is faster than MacKinnon and a better puck handler? because that video sure did not prove that at all. MacKinnon can simply take off from his own zone, skate by the entire team with the puck and score. Barkov can't do that. Barkov is more of a tight corners, grind out or have to be set up while skating without the puck, and someone needs to get the puck to him. There is a night and day difference between the 2 players.

 

[Goose of Reason]

MacKinnon at $6.3M or Draisaitl at $8.5M?

MacKinnon at 8.5 or Draisaitl at 6.3? I'd still pick Nate.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

I've always thought MacKinnon has top 10 potential in the entire league, not just at centre.

he definitely has that potential. will probably hit it in the next two years.

 

[EscapedGoat]

You left out Kyle Turris (+7) He is that guy in Nashville averaging a point a game for the team leading the Western Conference. Of course Filip Forsberg (+7) is also averaging a point a game for Nashville. You do have Johansen (+5) on your list, which is good, he is the Predators #2 Center with 31 pts in 29 games.

MacKinnon has 38 pts in 32 games, but is a -2 on the season. That is hard to believe.

Why even put the players plus/minus in brackets? I thought everyone knew at this point that it's a pointless stat? Might as well put the players favourite colours in brackets next to their names. That would have just as much impact as their plus minus.

Filip Forsberg, averaging a point a game (navy blue). Kyle Turris, also averaging a point a game since being traded to Nashville (hunter green). Ryan Johansen, has 31 points in 29 games, which is incorrect and could've easily been double checked with a Google search (oxblood red).

 

[Jarey Curry]

he definitely has that potential. will probably hit it in the next two years.

He is absolutely playing up to his potential right now. Only thing missing here is can he maintain that high level of pure havoc

 

[VoluntaryDom]

He is absolutely playing up to his potential right now. Only thing missing here is can he maintain that high level of pure havoc

ye