Yeah, goalies these days could never get...oh, let's say, .938sv%, 2.00 GAA and 9 SO
Either way, I have Hasek for prime and regular season but give me Roy for any day of the week and twice on Sunday's for the Playoffs.
The only thing more amazing than his regular season stats is that he only win one Stanley Cup, and did so on a sickeningly stacked Red Wings team over a laughable Hurricanes squad. Literally took a perfect storm for him to win a championship.
Apart from his regular season stats, Gretzky only ever won cups on a ridiculously stacked Edmonton dynasty team.
Did you not read my post? I said "cups". You don't need to tell me that "cups" means more than one....and did so a bunch of times.
Oh, and Dom's bail job on Detroit, the Ottawa years, and getting benched for Ozzi are all greaaaat additions to his legacy.
This is something I can't grasp really.
Hasek always performed in the playoffs, and raised his game for big show-downs.
The only difference is he played behind Peca, Satan, Zhitnik and Smehlik, as opposed to behind Forsberg, Sakic, Foote, etc.
He won everything in the game, Stanley Cup, Vezina, Olympics, etc.
LOL Hasek fans would have you believe that he achieved his glory behind expansion teams. Those Buffalo teams were very good without Dom.
The only thing more amazing than his regular season stats is that he only win one Stanley Cup, and did so on a sickeningly stacked Red Wings team over a laughable Hurricanes squad. Literally took a perfect storm for him to win a championship.
Since I have watched hockey, the guys who could, on a regular basis, carry a team nearly by themselves.... would go like this:
Hasek/Lemieux
Gretzky
Roy/Messier/Forsberg/Jagr/Lindros/Crosby/Ovechkin
Fedorov/Sakic/Datsyuk/Selanne/Bure/etc.
I think it's widely acknowledged that in all the best goalies debates, Hasek had the highest prime. He was flat out dominant.
It's arguable he was the best player in the league during that period too. Granted, Lemieux wasn't playing (and Gretzky was towards the end of his career), but the only other player during that time who could truly dominate the game was Peter Forsberg.
How good or highly regarded was Hasek in Chicago? Did he outshine Belfour many times?
The improvement in SV% and GAA from 92-93 to 93-94 is enormous.
One of my favorite players of all time for sure, I started following him in 1994 or 1995 when I saw him make a great save in TV's sporting news on Finnish national television.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominik_Hašek
Smehlik, Woolley, Warrener, McKee, Zhitnik, Patrick.
Looks like a pretty solid bunch to me defensively. Probably a bit unheralded.
So yeah, to answer the question, Hasek was the best I've seen. He was into my head, not just the players. I knew Canada was already dead going into that shootout in 1998.
Sakic is by my favorite player ever, but he really doesn't belong in this conversation, nor does Yzerman. Modano isn't even close.
Says a lot when Canada goaler was a certain Patrick Roy.
LOL Hasek fans would have you believe that he achieved his glory behind expansion teams. Those Buffalo teams were very good without Dom.
BTW, I had no idea that Patrick won all four of his Stanley Cups with the Avs.
The only thing more amazing than his regular season stats is that he only win one Stanley Cup, and did so on a sickeningly stacked Red Wings team over a laughable Hurricanes squad. Literally took a perfect storm for him to win a championship.
Oh, and Dom's bail job on Detroit, the Ottawa years, and getting benched for Ozzi are all greaaaat additions to his legacy.
This is something I can't grasp really.
Hasek always performed in the playoffs, and raised his game for big show-downs.
The only difference is he played behind Peca, Satan, Zhitnik and Smehlik, as opposed to behind Forsberg, Sakic, Foote, etc.
He won everything in the game, Stanley Cup, Vezina, Olympics, etc.
My favorite player.
I wish there was more of Hasek on Youtube but there is this:
Like I said though, I have Hasek #1 overall, Roy for the playoffs. I believe that is a fair evaluation.
It's also backed up statistically. Roy has the best career goals-versus-threshold numbers in the playoffs of any goalie by an enormous margin.