Speculation: What would it take for the Bruins to trade for AND sign Artemi Panarin?

BruinDust

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Kucherov gave TB a slight discount.

Panarin will no doubt get 10+ as a UFA.

As would Kucherov if he got to UFA. Heck Kucherov as a UFA this summer likely passes McDavid's AAV if money is the only motivator.

And yup, Panarin will get 10+ as UFA, but that kind of number for a player of his caliber (and maybe I'm underrating him) is insane to me. Especially for a guy who will be 28 in October.
 

tremha

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Free agents always get overpaid - I would be leery of trading a haul to get him and then paying a haul to keep him. Unless they want to rebuild the core and see him as the foundation (cant imagine that's the case), I don't see it happening and wouldn't offer much of anything just to talk with his agent.

agree - unless they can get him signed to a reasonable LT contract which i doubt.
 

tremha

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I really think this will be Krugs last year as a Bruin, unless they deal a Vaak or a Lauzon before hand. He's a huge asset as far as bringing help in other area's and the bruins will have the depth in the back-end to replace him.

personally i think Krug is a Bruin true and true and wants to be in the city. i think he would do LT for 6 per.
 

BruinDust

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personally i think Krug is a Bruin true and true and wants to be in the city. i think he would do LT for 6 per.

Of course he would. 6 years for a 29-year old undersized player is a steal for Krug, not so much for the Bruins.
 

Scotto74

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Didn't we learn with Nash or other big name rentals we have tried for in the past that it is not worth giving up future assets for someone who might not click for a playoff run.

If he is willing to do a sign and trade then we can talk 1st rounders and legit prospects otherwise I give up no more than a 2nd and lower level prospect or two for a rental.

depth rentals are okay and have worked for us in the past. Big name rentals not so much and take away to much of the future.

As GW said

f*** Rentals
 

BigBadBruins7708

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You're borrowing headaches.

Backes might cost a small piece to move but could be done.
Krug could easily be moved.
Chara may retire.
K. Miller could be moved.
John Moore could be moved.
Halak could be moved.
Heinen, Donato, Cehlarik, JFK, etc. haven't done anything yet to worry about how much they're going to demand and all are moveable.

McAvoy and Carlo will be due decent contracts but neither should break the bank this summer. $10M for the two combined?

Not saying I'd be jumping for joy if they traded a bunch for him and gave him $10M+ a season ... but they could fit him into the line-up without that much fuss.

and you've managed to take a team with limited depth as it is and leave it with absolutely zero depth, and gutted the pipeline of young talent working through the system. 1.5 lines and 1 good D pair gets you nowhere.

Good players throughout all lines/D pairs is what you need to win. Not being extremely top heavy with no depth (see Edmonton)
 

Mainehockey33

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At north of $10 million per year on top of that, which is what it would likely take? Hell no.
Idk, I’m not against getting him as a rental if we don’t give away Vaak or Studnicka. The chance to add a 90 point wing at the deadline is rare and the window is closing.
 

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Idk, I’m not against getting him as a rental if we don’t give away Vaak or Studnicka. The chance to add a 90 point wing at the deadline is rare and the window is closiang.

The problem with rentals is they almost always ultimately disappoint. Only one team can win the Cup and sometimes that team doesn't even need a rental- TB probably doesn't, WSH either. So you get 4-5 teams every year paying through the nose for a player that in all likelihood doesn't end up making that big a difference to the season outcome. Not worth it. For an owner, maybe, as they might get to count the cash from a longer playoff run. As a fan, probably not so much. Even with Panarin, I don't know if I see the Bruins as a strong Cup contender. It would be emptying a big bit of the cupboard for nothing *cough* Rick Nash*cough*

Sign and trade is a different story, but what would the ask be? It would hurt bad, really bad.
 

Tim Vezina Thomas

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I don't want any part of giving up assets for Panarin if hes a rental. I'd basically give up whatever it takes to acquire a signed Panarin though (with some exceptions of course).
 

missingchicklet

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Sure do wish the Bs could work out something for Tarasenko. I would give up quite a bit for him. Signed through 22-23 at $7.5 per. Will still be in his prime through the rest of his contract. His skill set is exactly what the Bs need.

I have mixed feelings about Panarin, leaning against trading for him even if a long-term deal can be reached. $11 mil per seems like too much for someone at his talent level and it would be a risky contract given his age in the latter half of it. Then again he is very skilled. Probably doesn't matter since he apparently has a limited number of places he wants to live.
 

Jean_Jacket41

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As would Kucherov if he got to UFA. Heck Kucherov as a UFA this summer likely passes McDavid's AAV if money is the only motivator.

And yup, Panarin will get 10+ as UFA, but that kind of number for a player of his caliber (and maybe I'm underrating him) is insane to me. Especially for a guy who will be 28 in October.

Wouldn’t give him that much either.

Would still try to get him as rental and see afterwards if 8-8.5M can be worked. If not, trade his rights at the draft.

Gryz-JFK-1st for Panarin
 
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AngryMilkcrates

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One of our favorites here at HFBoards :sarcasm:

With his insider's info.

My point in posting this is the asking price for Panarin. A 1st, DeBrusk, and a prospect is a truckload for 3 months of a player. Sweeney has to be able to have solid word from him and his agent that Boston is in the running for resigning him. Then he would have to wine and dine Panarin ala John Tavares to get him to stay. THEN he has to pay Panaran's cost, which is rumored to be Tavares money and length.
 

BruinDust

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One of our favorites here at HFBoards :sarcasm:

With his insider's info.

My point in posting this is the asking price for Panarin. A 1st, DeBrusk, and a prospect is a truckload for 3 months of a player. Sweeney has to be able to have solid word from him and his agent that Boston is in the running for resigning him. Then he would have to wine and dine Panarin ala John Tavares to get him to stay. THEN he has to pay Panaran's cost, which is rumored to be Tavares money and length.


Yeah good luck with that for a rental whose pretty much all but publicly guaranteed he's going to test the market.
 

BigGoalBrad

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First and a prospect and he agrees to resign for 8 years 80 mil before we make the trade. Hes not taking less.

I do it. That is fair all around.
 

The don godfather

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One of our favorites here at HFBoards :sarcasm:

With his insider's info.

My point in posting this is the asking price for Panarin. A 1st, DeBrusk, and a prospect is a truckload for 3 months of a player. Sweeney has to be able to have solid word from him and his agent that Boston is in the running for resigning him. Then he would have to wine and dine Panarin ala John Tavares to get him to stay. THEN he has to pay Panaran's cost, which is rumored to be Tavares money and length.

Haha no nada no thanks. Nyet!
 

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Fluto this morning speculates what it will take

Artemi Panarin to the Bruins? Here's a look at what it might...

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There is a factor that can not be ignored. Charlie wants his parents to enjoy winning another Cup and Cam is acutely aware of this.
 

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