Speculation: What would it take for the Bruins to trade for AND sign Artemi Panarin?

[Fenway]

The Breadman is the trade deadline prize. It seems certain Columbus has to move him.

https://www.tsn.ca/panarin-jumps-to-the-top-of-tsn-s-trade-bait-board-1.1249434

Before we consider what the Bruins would have to give up, there is the challenge of signing him. Very simply if they can not sign him - NO DEAL

Everybody I have talked to says he wants to play in a city with a large Russian population and 4 cities jump to the top - New York City, Los Angeles, Washington and Chicago. Boston, by comparison, has a very small number.

But to even get permission to talk to him you have to get permission from the Blue Jackets so the framework has to be in place.

What would you offer Columbus for the permission to talk to him and his agent?

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[PB37]

The rub here is being able to sign him. He has rather specific demands and I think other cities have what he is looking for.

It makes no sense to trade DeBrusk, Donato, and a first rounder for a guy that stays a Bruins for a couple of months.

If he somehow says, " hey, Boston, cool place, city of winners, I want to make my mark here and sign long term" then yes, you make that deal. I love DeBrusk and Donato has the tools to be a good offensive player, but Panarin is elite and completely changes that top 6.

I can't see the Bruins offering him more than 7 per year and I think in the open market, he can easily get close to 9.

 

[Over the volcano]

Free agents always get overpaid - I would be leery of trading a haul to get him and then paying a haul to keep him. Unless they want to rebuild the core and see him as the foundation (cant imagine that's the case), I don't see it happening and wouldn't offer much of anything just to talk with his agent.

 

[Estlin]

Forget Panarin: he ain't going to Boston, methinks. Go after Mark Stone.

 

[JRull86]

Starts with DeBrusk and a 1st, and build from there.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

I have contradictory thoughts on this guy:

1. If he’s available, it feels like a slap in the face of Bergeron/Marchand/Krejci/Chara not to try to get him, even unsigned. I honestly feel like this core 100% deserves a legit chance at another cup and he’s the #1 guy who could help with that. Giving up DeBrusk would hurt but c’mon, Panarin is a legit threat all game long.

2. Why is he so concerned with playing in a big city with lots of Russians? Shouldn’t getting a fair/generous contract AND the chance to win a cup figure in? I know he wouldn’t be the only athlete to chase the $$$ but does he really care about winning, or is that secondary to being around people who speak his language?

 

[Ratty]

I belong to the Loyalty Program at Panera. I think I have a better chance of getting a free pecan roll than to see this guy in black and yellow.

 

[TCB]

Ok here go's, If I could do a sign and trade for him. I'd give up a lot but maybe not enough

Something around:

Debrusk or Cehlarik
Zboril or Lauzon ,but if you take Debrusk your not getting Lauzon
Swayman or Vladar,( A reach out to JD heart here), but if you take one of the defenseman your not getting one of the goalies.
This years or next years 1st and Cameron Hughes but if Panarin flees back to Russia at anytime during his contract with the Bruins,the Bruins will receive Columbus's first round pick, that year or the year after, the Bruins choice to be made on draft day.

 

[easton117]

Throwing shit at the wall.

Panarin isn’t going to want to be second fiddle to anyone at this point. If you want to sell him on something then sell him on playing next to Bergeron.

That means Marchand goes the other way if he signs. Win win for both teams here and now and the future.

Then call St Louis and offer Krug straight up for Schenn. They need a LD that can move a puck. Boston needs a centre /winger. Another win win.

Figure out the money stuff in the offseason. They should have more than originally planned as none of their elc’s should be breaking the bank.

Fantasy land stuff. But entertaining to think about.

 

[JRull86]

Throwing **** at the wall.

Panarin isn’t going to want to be second fiddle to anyone at this point. If you want to sell him on something then sell him on playing next to Bergeron.

That means Marchand goes the other way if he signs. Win win for both teams here and now and the future.

Then call St Louis and offer Krug straight up for Schenn. They need a LD that can move a puck. Boston needs a centre /winger. Another win win.

Figure out the money stuff in the offseason. They should have more than originally planned as none of their elc’s should be breaking the bank.

Fantasy land stuff. But entertaining to think about.

Marchand straight up for Panarin does not make them:

A) A better team
B) Any sense whatsoever

The point of trading for Panarin would be to have a legitimate top 6. Moving Marchand out solves none of that, and you take on more salary for the future as well.

 

[Mainehockey33]

If he agrees to resign then I’d start at Debrusk + 1st and prospects. Debrusk doesn’t have much chemistry with Krejci anyways. This is the kind of move they need to make if they want the cup this year imo.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Throwing **** at the wall.

Panarin isn’t going to want to be second fiddle to anyone at this point. If you want to sell him on something then sell him on playing next to Bergeron.

That means Marchand goes the other way if he signs. Win win for both teams here and now and the future.

Then call St Louis and offer Krug straight up for Schenn. They need a LD that can move a puck. Boston needs a centre /winger. Another win win.

Figure out the money stuff in the offseason. They should have more than originally planned as none of their elc’s should be breaking the bank.

Fantasy land stuff. But entertaining to think about.

I don't see how moving Marchand for Panarin is a win for the Bruins in any way

 

[JRull86]

Ok here go's, If I could do a sign and trade for him. I'd give up a lot but maybe not enough

Something around:

Debrusk or Cehlarik
Zboril or Lauzon ,but if you take Debrusk your not getting Lauzon
Swayman or Vladar,( A reach out to JD heart here), but if you take one of the defenseman your not getting one of the goalies.
This years or next years 1st and Cameron Hughes but if Panarin flees back to Russia at anytime during his contract with the Bruins,the Bruins will receive Columbus's first round pick, that year or the year after, the Bruins choice to be made on draft day.

You're getting close here I think.

JBD, 2019 1st, and someone like Zboril and a lesser prospect for a signed Panarin is a good trade for Boston, but gives CLB a young cost controlled winger who has flashed an ability to produce at an NHL level, and some future capital to improve with.

If I was CLB and looking at G prospects from Boston, Keyser is my guy.

 

[OV]

I'm not sure I care to have another player...regardless of skill...that plays his contract hand in the media.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Signing Panarin means 2 of MacAvoy, Carlo or DeBrusk are out the door.

The cap space doesn't exist (thanks Backes) do make it worth while

 

[xjoeyc23x]

Marchand Bergy _____
Breadman DK46 Pasta

 

[Mainehockey33]

Signing Panarin means 2 of MacAvoy, Carlo or DeBrusk are out the door.

The cap space doesn't exist (thanks Backes) do make it worth while

I’m still hoping they can trade Backes this summer.

 

[Gee Wally]

Too expensive for my taste.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Too expensive for my taste.

But a 90 point winger joining the team for a playoff run is pretty enticing.

 

[Gee Wally]

But a 90 point winger joining the team for a playoff run is pretty enticing.

Not if it costs me Debrusk, Charlie Mac plus first rounders.
Because signed he will command huge payoff.

And f*** rentals.

 

[LouJersey]

would take 8.5 per to re-sign I would imagine.

As far as deal wise

1st, Debrusk and high prospect I would think.

 

[easton117]

I don't see how moving Marchand for Panarin is a win for the Bruins in any way

That’s cause I’m thinking here and now as well as three years down the road.

Is there that much of a drop odd between Panarin and Marchand now? Maybe slight? The guy is a top 15 winger in the league.

Three years from now I’m banking he’s better than Marchand at that time.

Will he cost more? Ya sure. But the Bruins are going to have to face the day when someone makes more than Bergeron or Krejci sooner or later. I’d rather it be on a Panarin type that has shown he is elite.

Or not. Just screwing around here lol

 

[Mainehockey33]

Not if it costs me Debrusk, Charlie Mac plus first rounders.
Because signed he will command huge payoff.

And **** rentals.

I wouldn’t trade both Debrusk and Mcavoy, but Debrusk + would be worth it since Panarin is better and would be taking JD’s spot.

If they insist on both those guys I wouldn’t want to do it.

 

[MillerTime86]

I’m thinking the starting point for Columbus would be a 1st round pick, a younger roster player, and a top prospect.

Columbus is not going to be interested in the Zboril’s, Lauzon’s, Clifton’s, Bjork’s, Hughes’ etc. It would probably start with someone like DeBrusk or Krug, then Donato, Frederic, or Vaak, then our 1st round pick. Then likely a max $$ contract for Panarin on top of it all.

Worth it? I’d say nope. Pass.

 

[JRull86]

Signing Panarin means 2 of MacAvoy, Carlo or DeBrusk are out the door.

The cap space doesn't exist (thanks Backes) do make it worth while

No it doesn't.

They have plenty of room for this season, then work it out over the summer. They'll be able to unload Backes if they really want to, and the reasons have been discussed ad nauseum.