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What To Do With Ryan O’Reilly ?
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Newusername
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recently watched oreilly at the flames game on monday and on tv tonight. i really truly believe that guy is the heart of this team, its ridiculous we even have to consider trading him, id rather trade duchene then oreilly. management needs to get this guys signed my offer 7.5 for 8 years
dahrougem2
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Too much. The most I'd be willing to go is 7M and if that's what it takes, it sure as hell better be long-term
Avs_19
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It's like deja-vu. "Patrick Roy loves Ryan O'Reilly". "Colorado Avalanche are going to do everything they can....." Heard this stuff so many times now.
I guess one new thing is that Roy publicly said he sees O'Reilly as a center. O'Reilly has also been the #1 go-to-guy on this team for the last little while. Maybe that'll make O'Reilly more comfortable re-signing long-term.
In the end it's going to come down to the money though. It doesn't really matter what either side says publicly. Pay him what he wants and there's a very good chance he'll be here long-term.
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
They should have an idea what the ballpark is at this point, isn't that common sense? Either they are comfortable with the ballpark or not or else all of this is just public delusions. I don't assume anything any more though including common sense.
I'm perfectly fine with signing him long term at 7M. Keep that Landy-ROR-MacK line in tact. Or keep him at center, move MacK back into the center position and trade Duchene for defense.
While I appreciate ROR, even before this hot streak, he is still a max $6.75m guy for me. I just can't get myself comfortable going to $7m.
I'm hoping he was given an early nod from the FO that he wasn't likely to be traded at the deadline and it helped him relax a bit. There is still the lingering feeling that his play always "picks up" when there is potential money coming around the corner. He can sign a pretty hefty extension in 3 months (only 1 month of ice time) and I'm sure that knowing he can prove his value is lingering somewhere in his mind
I'm hoping he was given an early nod from the FO that he wasn't likely to be traded at the deadline and it helped him relax a bit. There is still the lingering feeling that his play always "picks up" when there is potential money coming around the corner. He can sign a pretty hefty extension in 3 months (only 1 month of ice time) and I'm sure that knowing he can prove his value is lingering somewhere in his mind
Foppa2118
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That $7M number is pretty hard to grasp, but I got to say, for everything I loved about O'Reilly's game during his career (and he along with Landy have probably been my favorite players of this new generation) I think he might have taken his game to a new level to end this year.
He's finally got a physical battle to his game. He's leaning into guys to finish checks on occasion, he's giving a cross check shove when a guy tries to smother him somehow. He's just battling in every sense now, and he's playing with as much confidence with the puck as he's ever played with. And at the same time, every single shift he's still mindful of his positioning in all three zones, he never cheats. He unselfishly covers as the 3rd man high, or for the pinching D man, and he's still getting all theses great scoring chances. It's really quite amazing.
He's finally playing the way Roy really wanted him to play. Do everything he was doing before, but just with a little more "physical battle." That's what it takes in the playoffs, and I think that's what Roy probably had in mind, when ROR came to him and said he wanted to learn "how to win" after last year.
I don't think he's worth $7M, but ******* he's a good player. Who cares. The Avs have set themselves up to afford an overpayment or two. Might as well do it with O'Reilly. The contracts have been spread out a bit for it not to be compared to Duchene's.
The only hang up in my mind now is what to do with Mack. I think he'd be a great RW'er but does Roy really want to do that? ROR has played so well at center, in absolutely every sense including that two way style that they'll be missing without him and may not be able to win without. I don't think you can move him back to wing at this point.
The other thing is Tanguay has complemented that line so well, what do you do with him? I don't think you can move him back with Dutchy and Iggy. That's just too many skill players. That line has actually worked better with Mitchell on it than Tanguay, as crazy as that seems.
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
Maybe ideally you do this next year
Landy-O'Reilly-MacK
McGinn-Duchene-Iginla
Tanguay-Mitchell-Everberg
Tanguay is a better player than McGinn but this just works better. Tangs made that line amazing earlier in the year. The Landy line doesn't need him to be amazing. McGinn is one of the few that works with Duchene, would give that line a bit of jam.
Landy-O'Reilly-MacK
McGinn-Duchene-Iginla
Tanguay-Mitchell-Everberg
Tanguay is a better player than McGinn but this just works better. Tangs made that line amazing earlier in the year. The Landy line doesn't need him to be amazing. McGinn is one of the few that works with Duchene, would give that line a bit of jam.
What happens if MacKinnon is point per game next year when we paid O'Reilly for what he has been producing over 7M?
Less of an issue than you think.
Tyler Johnson produced the same as Stamkos this year. I don't think he expects to be paid the same as Stammer.
Except it likely would be an issue if TJ had gotten a big contract one year and then Stamkos was due a new deal the next year.
For all the love we have for ROR, I think we all would have to admit that MacK is likely going to be the better player of the two. (at least when it comes to what gets a guy paid)
Foppa2118
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Yea, I think that's the most obvious combo in my mind too, only because Mack and Dutchy just aren't a great fit for each other. Tough to take Tangs off that ROR line though, he compliments it so well. Him and O'Reilly have just been off the charts IQ wise out there, and really developed a nice chemistry.
cgf
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I would love to get a return to equal (especially for the D) for him. I just don't think we'll get the return that would make it worth it. I think that re-signing him would be best, even if we do have to overpay him slightly. Our forwards (the core at least) is still very young, so lets be patient and let our D prospects develop and come up and take over in a few years.
avsfan09
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Sakic said earlier that he wanted to sign him by a certain date and if he couldn't he would trade him. What date was that? I thought it was the draft.I could be remembering the whole thing wrong though.
tigervixxxen
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avsfan09
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I was told that we couldn't sign him before the draft which is what lead to my confusion.
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