What range of record would you require to consider hiring Nasreddine as HC?

[devilsblood]

If the Devils hover at a 95-97 point pace for the next half of the season (basically, a playoff pace) I say you give Nas a one year extension as head coach.

I agree on such a pace being enough for him to get the job, but I doubt he'd be signed to a one year deal. Would prob get 3 year deal.

 

[Tretyak 20]

If Laviolette turns up available he needs to be the guy. Three organizations, three SCF appearances - one for each.

And he preaches the right kind of game for what Shero's building.

 

[Forge]

I'll give Nas some credit....the team is absolutely playing better (hard to play worse, candidly), and I really think that they are playing harder as well. I haven't had nearly the amount of problems with the things he has done that I did with Hynes on a nearly daily basis.

Obviously, there is a point where the wins / losses could force us into a hard decision, but I don't think that he'll get there. Still, I'm cool if they want to give him a real, serious interview if he doesn't crap his pants the rest of the way, but I'd be hard pressed to think that he would be the right answer for the job even if we did give him that real interview.

 

[Ol Dirty Bstrd]

He’s been doing okay, but there were a few times last game our 4th line got matched against the Bergeron line at home. That is unacceptable. Didn’t burn us but it easily could have and almost did once or twice. He’ll have to clean that up if he wants to be a legit HC.

As for the question, we would have to play at a 95 point pace minimum for me to consider it. It also depends who else is available. If we have a shot at someone like Laviolette you take him ten times out of ten.

 

[NJDevs26]

I think people are underestimating just how hard making the playoffs would be and overestimating the bar it would take for Nas to clear meriting an extension. I think a 90-95 point pace in the second half as one or two posters above said makes him a very real candidate for an extension, especially since IMO Shero doesn't really want to hire a big name coach anyway, and he'd rather be proven right about the system and his vision by just changing the voice.

Plus they're probably trading one or two more key guys at least in the second half anyway, it's not as if they'll remain static.

 

[glenwo2]

I think people are underestimating just how hard making the playoffs would be and overestimating the bar it would take for Nas to clear meriting an extension. I think a 90-95 point pace in the second half as one or two posters above said makes him a very real candidate for an extension, especially since IMO Shero doesn't really want to hire a big name coach anyway, and he'd rather be proven right about the system and his vision by just changing the voice.

Plus they're probably trading one or two more key guys at least in the second half anyway, it's not as if they'll remain static.

You keep harping on this but in reality we really don't know what Shero is thinking or what his rationale is.

Just 'cause he took a few decades to get rid of Hynes, it doesn't mean that he'll keep Nas just so he wants the system to prove him right.

I would think Shero would be much smarter about the situation than being stubborn and petty.

The way the team is playing under Nas right now, IMO, is fools gold.

They are being more competitive but honestly....they had nowhere to go but up after Hynes.

Addition by subtraction.

And their Defense is still utter s--t overall.

The Devils need a brand-new NHL-Caliber Head Coach (with an actual Resume) to take them to the next level.

Hynes wasn't going to do it and neither will Nas.

So I pray that Shero recognizes this and if there is a big-name coach (Laviolette?) available in the offseason, he goes up to him and says "Shut up and take my money!".

 

[NJDevs26]

You keep harping on this but in reality we really don't know what Shero is thinking or what his rationale is.

Just 'cause he took a few decades to get rid of Hynes, it doesn't mean that he'll keep Nas just so he wants the system to prove him right.

I would think Shero would be much smarter about the situation than being stubborn and petty.

The way the team is playing under Nas right now, IMO, is fools gold.

They are being more competitive but honestly....they had nowhere to go but up after Hynes.

Addition by subtraction.



And I pray that Shero recognizes this and if there is a big-name coach (Laviolette?) available in the offseason, he goes up to him and says "Shut up and take my money!".

So far his three head coaching hires in almost fifteen years as a GM were all assistants who'd never been an NHL head coach before and we haven't even heard a sniff of any kind of interview with anyone in the month since Hynes was canned for the 'interim' hire. Until and if he ever changes his pattern, this is what Shero is - he hires young guys indebted to him who'll do his bidding, and without the wattage to overshadow him.

 

[glenwo2]

So far his three head coaching hires in almost fifteen years as a GM were all assistants who'd never been an NHL head coach before and we haven't even heard a sniff of any kind of interview with anyone in the month since Hynes was canned for the 'interim' hire. Until and if he ever changes his pattern, this is what Shero is - he hires young guys indebted to him who'll do his bidding, and without the wattage to overshadow him.

The Devils need a brand-new NHL-Caliber Head Coach (with an actual Resume) to take them to the next level.

Hynes wasn't going to do it and neither will Nas.

And if Shero doesn't recognize this, he should be fired.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Getting this team after the start it had without Hall and potentially without a few other players by the deadline into the playoffs would be a massive massive accomplishment.

You would be crazy to not seriously consider an extension for Nas if that happens.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Getting this team after the start it had without Hall and potentially without a few other players by the deadline into the playoffs would be a massive massive accomplishment.

You would be crazy to not seriously consider an extension for Nas if that happens.

That would be a miracle and you would absolutely have to sign him if it happened.

 

[Call Me Al]

they’re playing so much better but you guys can’t seriously be holding out hope for the playoffs can you?

a playoff pace would be worth considering nas, as well as waiting and seeing how the young players develop over the rest of the season.

it also depends entirely on who’s available

 

[TheUnseenHand]

they’re playing so much better but you guys can’t seriously be holding out hope for the playoffs can you?

a playoff pace would be worth considering nas, as well as waiting and seeing how the young players develop over the rest of the season.

it also depends entirely on who’s available

It seems some are, but I don't think there is a real understanding of how virtually impossible it would be. Not only would we have to go on a historic run, we would need help, and a lot of it, from at least one team in front of us.

 

[glenwo2]

Getting this team after the start it had without Hall and potentially without a few other players by the deadline into the playoffs would be a massive massive accomplishment.

You would be crazy to not seriously consider an extension for Nas if that happens.

That would be a miracle and you would absolutely have to sign him if it happened.

Which is what I said earlier.

What range of record would you require to consider hiring Nasreddine as HC?

Playoffs or bust, basically.

As of right now, Nas is using the crappy "system" of Hynes that many of us are sick and tired of watching.

There needs to be a new voice; a new change that shows the Devils fans that Ray is SERIOUS about getting the team back to being a regular playoff-contender.

Getting a New Head Coach, a new Staff, a REAL NHL SYSTEM....would deliver that message.

 

[HellOnIce]

I don't see how you can hold him to the playoff standard. I mean pretty much impossible.

If he goes on a 97-99 point pace- no easy feat given the team isn't that good, and any coming trades of certain players, etc - than I think he's earned it.

 

[glenwo2]

I don't see how you can hold him to the playoff standard. I mean pretty much impossible.

If he goes on a 97-99 point pace- no easy feat given the team isn't that good, and any coming trades of certain players, etc - than I think he's earned it.

It all comes down to what Ray's definition of "earned it" is.

It might be what you say after all.

OR, if he looks at it from a logical perspective, he will simply move on and find a HC with an NHL Resume.

Remember... After the Hynes debacle, Shero has put himself behind the 8-ball with the Franchise (and the owners) so he MUST "Hit" on the next Head Coach.

Otherwise, his seat is going to start roasting his butt.

As far as Nas goes, maybe he would be offered the Assistant Coach gig with the New HC(provided the new coach wants him).

 

[JrFischer54]

what record or range would you consider acceptable to then hire Nasreddine as next years HC?

Obviously other factors include scoring, defense, how young guys played, etc..

But lets keep it simple

Hynes coached 26 games. Nasreddine as of today before 2020 is 5-6-2 while trying to shake off remnants of Hynes’ terrible system (or lack thereof)

Id personally like to see .600 hockey or higher. So if we won 26 of our next 43, Id be overly impressed considering the circumstances

ZERO this coaching staff needs a complete purge from top to bottom. i don't even care if he gets this team to the playoffs

 

[Devils731]

I would only be interested in Nas as the new head coach if the team performs well the rest of this season and he doesn’t believe the current defensive nor breakout systems are effective and both need philosophical changes.

Even if the team plays well down the stretch, I think the current philosophy of this and last season hurts the team and create an anti-synergy on the ice.

 

[JK3]

NO

 

[TrufleShufle]

It seems some are, but I don't think there is a real understanding of how virtually impossible it would be. Not only would we have to go on a historic run, we would need help, and a lot of it, from at least one team in front of us.

I would never tell anyone this, but between you and me, I hold hope until it is mathematically impossible.

 

[Whaddagoal]

Chalk up another highly controlled njd victory tonight under Nas guidance. Its not just a win, but how they played.

 

[NJDevs26]

Pretty soon it's going to get to the point where I'll be even more annoyed at Shero for not pulling the plug on Hynes sooner.

 

[Japam]

I was wondering this last night too. He was handed a really bad situation and is making it better. But if it isn't good enough to make the playoffs then does he just lose his job despite doing a good job trying to right the ship while not being a big name like Lemaire? I don't know how Binghamton is doing, but if they don't keep Nas as head or assistant coach up here do they give him the head coach job down there and see what he can do with a whole season or 2?

 

[Oneiro]

For me, it would be the cup.

Making the playoffs was fun in 17-18 but it led to some unrealistic expectations from some fans and gave Hynes a 1 1/4’s seasons worth of rope he shouldn’t have had. The team is playing better with Nas but not well enough that I’m convinced of anything. Except Nico’s greatness.

 

[Lou is God]

Anyone who says he needs to win the cup to keep his job are being quite unrealistic, even if he just makes the playoffs with this crew and loses in first round he's going to get a contract extension and probably be named Coach of the Year.

 

[Call Me Al]

i was unhappy with him being named coach based on everything we watched over the past few years, but i have to say i really like how he’s handling them. all i need to see is the team playing with confidence and the young guys actually taking steps in their development. that wasn’t happening before and it is now. short of a laviolette or cooper being available, if they keep playing like this for the rest of the season i’d be ok with bringing him back