What is Plan B if the Senators don't sign Duchene or Stone?

[Upgrayedd]

Yeah no kidding,I wonder how much more he will charge the team when it gets to Lebreton???The Senators will see record losses ,while the arena that is and will be built for them will make even more profit....

Lol, that is the weird thing in that many assume he will spend competitively or even close to average league amounts if a Lebreton Arena was secured?

I suppose those who believe that actually believe the team truly loses money yearly where it is currently.

I do not believe this and am fairly certain all things Senators related when combined makes a decent prophet, I would expect the same mis-management to continue in a new building with Eugene simply pocketing more for the initial years where attendance would be surely high until he puts his foot in his mouth again or the fan base experiences other markets and realizes how badly we are getting the shaft here in Ottawa in comparison to virtually every market.

 

[topshelf15]

Lol, that is the weird thing in that many assume he will spend competitively or even close to average league amounts if a Lebreton Arena was secured?

I suppose those who believe that actually believe the team truly loses money yearly where it is currently.

I do not believe this and am fairly certain all things Senators related when combined makes a decent prophet, I would expect the same mis-management to continue in a new building with Eugene simply pocketing more for the initial years where attendance would be surely high until he puts his foot in his mouth again or the fan base experiences other markets and realizes how badly we are getting the shaft here in Ottawa in comparison to virtually every market.

The arena was built for the team yet hardly sees any of its gains,EM buries the team in debt charges it rent then pockets a tidy profit...But at least he can cry about how much the team loses....

Another thing is that by him throwing his offer for a free arena in exchange, for any and all profit made from the development at Lebreton ...Just means more of the same for the team...A real billionaire coming in that has money to for the development...Would have the arena itself sustain the team,while he feasts on the development...

In short EM will just keep the exact same BS going if he is allowed to gain a free arena ,the team will see very little while he gets a nicer house in the Barbadoes

 

[SPF6ty9]

Even better ... the Senators should hire the "analytics community" to give us a more accurate prediction of the future.

Imagine how much better they could draft, make trades know what players want to stay, or come to Ottawa.

2017 Pre-season hockey Power rankings:

Sporting News 18th: NHL preseason power rankings: Penguins start where they finished

ESPN 20th: Power Rankings: Penguins start on top

NHL.com 16th: Super 16: Penguins start season at No. 1

Sportsnet 26th: NHL Off-Season Power Rankings: Who's improved most (so far)? - Sportsnet.ca

But don't worry guys, nobody could have seen this coming, Garrioch and Tnuoc said so. Dorion is clearly absolved of all blame!

You and the Sens may be using hindsight to make it appear like that run was a legitimate measure of the state of the team. Opinions at the time say this wasn't so.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

The arena was built for the team yet hardly sees any of its gains,EM buries the team in debt charges it rent then pockets a tidy profit...But at least he can cry about how much the team loses....

Another thing is that by him throwing his offer for a free arena in exchange, for any and all profit made from the development at Lebreton ...Just means more of the same for the team...A real billionaire coming in that has money to for the development...Would have the arena itself sustain the team,while he feasts on the development...

In short EM will just keep the exact same BS going if he is allowed to gain a free arena ,the team will see very little while he gets a nicer house in the Barbadoes

As we've seen, a big problem with Melnyk is that he genuinely seems butt hurt over players and coaches getting market value.

 

[topshelf15]

OMG talks have stalled,with Duchene.....How did this happen????Lol

 

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Hahahahahaha

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Hahahahahaha

Shocker.

We all knew this was coming. Melnyk just seems to think he gets to assign his own value on players and coaches and they're assholes for not accepting his shit pie.

Good, go on to a team that isn't a joke Matt. I hope Stone tells them to shove it too.

 

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Shocker.

We all knew this was coming. Melnyk just seems to think he gets to assign his own value on players and coaches and they're *******s for not accepting his **** pie.

Good, go on to a team that isn't a joke Matt. I hope Stone tells them to shove it too.

I was told this was all part of negotiations. That's how they work!

 

[DJB]

Bye bye Duchene!

Cant wait to see the crap return we get just to watch the Avs walk away with Hughes in June

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I was told this was all part of negotiations. That's how they work!

Melnyk doesn't negotiate, he tells players what they're worth or they can f*** off.

I really really hope Stone does the same, Melnyk does not deserve that press conference announcing a signing.

 

[DJB]

Their is no plan other than to be cheap for Melnyk. That's it

 

[Adele Dazeem]

We're tanking guys, if you hadn't picked up on that then wake up.
I personally don't like the strategy of becoming a bottom-feeder and picking up top-5 picks but its what he (Melnyk) chose.

 

[BondraTime]

We're tanking guys, if you hadn't picked up on that then wake up.
I personally don't like the strategy of becoming a bottom-feeder and picking up top-5 picks but its what he (Melnyk) chose.

Great year to choose it, our pick will be great!!

 

[BatherSeason]

Delete

 

[NorthCoast]

We're tanking guys, if you hadn't picked up on that then wake up.
I personally don't like the strategy of becoming a bottom-feeder and picking up top-5 picks but its what he (Melnyk) chose.

Your not wrong..but sadly sens management do a very good job of making tanking and complete incompetence look identical.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

We're tanking guys, if you hadn't picked up on that then wake up.
I personally don't like the strategy of becoming a bottom-feeder and picking up top-5 picks but its what he (Melnyk) chose.

Then why this whole pretend show of trying to sign Duchene, Karlsson and Stone. There's no point in even starting talks if you aren't making competitive offers.

They need to man up and stop lying to everyone.

 

[RyCam]

We're tanking guys, if you hadn't picked up on that then wake up.
I personally don't like the strategy of becoming a bottom-feeder and picking up top-5 picks but its what he (Melnyk) chose.

I'm sure the Avs really appreciate it.

This franchise is a black hole for hope and optimism as long as Melnyk is around.

 

[Six Assets]

Hahahahahaha

How is 8 million not even a starting point?

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Then why this whole pretend show of trying to sign Duchene, Karlsson and Stone. There's no point in even starting talks if you aren't making competitive offers.

They need to man up and stop lying to everyone.

That would require a pretty big lifestyle change.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Not saying it isnt,but what was the reason for building the arena out there in the first place??

Why Canadian Tire Centre is Where it is | Bruce Firestone

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Bye bye Duchene!

Cant wait to see the crap return we get just to watch the Avs walk away with Hughes in June

I really hope this happens at this point.

I really hope Melnyk gets humiliated on live TV and enjoys nothing.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

I do not believe this and am fairly certain all things Senators related when combined makes a decent prophet, I would expect the same mis-management to continue in a new building with Eugene simply pocketing more for the initial years where attendance would be surely high until he puts his foot in his mouth again or the fan base experiences other markets and realizes how badly we are getting the shaft here in Ottawa in comparison to virtually every market.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

2017 Pre-season hockey Power rankings:

Sporting News 18th: NHL preseason power rankings: Penguins start where they finished

ESPN 20th: Power Rankings: Penguins start on top

NHL.com 16th: Super 16: Penguins start season at No. 1

Sportsnet 26th: NHL Off-Season Power Rankings: Who's improved most (so far)? - Sportsnet.ca

But don't worry guys, nobody could have seen this coming, Garrioch and Tnuoc said so. Dorion is clearly absolved of all blame!

You and the Sens may be using hindsight to make it appear like that run was a legitimate measure of the state of the team. Opinions at the time say this wasn't so.

LOL, these power ranking do not predict the ranking for the end of the 2017-18 season. They're ranking for the beginning of the season.

Oh and how accurate they must be. In one of them the Penguins are ranked 1st overall, and in another they're ranked 27th, below the Senators.



Yeah, lets take these as a predictions for the final standing of the season.

 

[DaveMatthew]

LOL, these power ranking do not predict the ranking for the end of the 2017-18 season. They're ranking for the beginning of the season.

Oh and how accurate they must be. In one of them the Penguins are ranked 1st overall, and in another they're ranked 27th, below the Senators.

Yeah, lets take these as a predictions for the final standing of the season.

Sportsnet NHL Insider predictions for 2017-18 season - Sportsnet.ca

Nobody picked Ottawa to win the Cup. Nobody picked Ottawa to win the East. Nobody picked Ottawa to be the best Canadian team. 3 people picked Ottawa to be the team most likely to disappoint.

THN’s 2017-18 Season Preview: Ottawa Senators - TheHockeyNews

"THN’s PREDICTION: 4th in Atlantic. Opponents start to figure out how to break down the Senators’ defense and while Ottawa comes close — really close — to earning another berth in the post-season, they ultimately fall a few points short in a tight wild-card race."

https://www.tsn.ca/talent/sens-players-ignoring-preseason-predictions-1.875629

"But on the eve of the 2017-18 regular campaign, Boucher says he’s not planning on playing a similar underdog card to start this season – even though many pundits and experts are predicting a tough year ahead for his team."

"Most preseason prognostications seem to peg the Senators on the outside looking in at the playoff picture in the Eastern Conference. The club is a 33-to-1 longshot to win the Stanley Cup – by far the worst odds given to any of the four clubs that reached the conference final last spring."

"Even the most basic stats painted Ottawa in a poor light, as the club finished the regular season with a negative goal differential – the only playoff team with that distinction. Ottawa also finished in the bottom 10 in special teams, as both their power play and penalty kill struggled for long stretches. Those factors all contributed to the feeling that Ottawa was a house of cards ready to topple at a moment’s notice."

Let's repeat for emphasis:

"Those factors all contributed to the feeling that Ottawa was a house of cards ready to topple at a moment’s notice."

 

[BondraTime]

LOL, these power ranking do not predict the ranking for the end of the 2017-18 season. They're ranking for the beginning of the season.

Oh and how accurate they must be. In one of them the Penguins are ranked 1st overall, and in another they're ranked 27th, below the Senators.



Yeah, lets take these as a predictions for the final standing of the season.

Nice comprehension, the list you're talking about where the Pens are below the Sens is "who improved the most this offseason", not a power ranking of who will finish where...

And if you think noone (Just so you can use your usual Peter Noone joke as you seem to like to act be the grammar police...) thought the Sens were going to have a bad year, your heads further in the sand than I had believed, which is astounding in and of itself