Mitchy
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Gardiner being underrated as usual. 4 years at 5M per would be an amazingly team friendly contract.
bounced back in preseason, he may not be a top pairing dman but he looks solid out there, hopefully, he can be a #3 all year for us.Zaitsev’s bounced back?
Did I oversleep and miss the start of the season?
There’s no way he should be on any teams top pairing. His defensive play is atrocious.
It was definitely a part of it.Gardiner isn't from Ontario. Tavares is, that's why he signed in Toronto.
Obviously, the Leafs are not the only "contenders" in the league though. There's quite a few.It was definitely a part of it.
I don't think he would've signed if he didn't see a strong potential for the team to win a cup (ala Stamkos).
Yes.Obviously, the Leafs are not the only "contenders" in the league though. There's quite a few.
Me too; they have been looking amazing together. Could be the Leafs future top pair.I hope you're right.
I don't know about next year but not too far off, they certainly were a pleasant surprise.Me too; they have been looking amazing together. Could be the Leafs future top pair.
If Zaitsevs has a third year under his belt and proves he can play 22 min a night, why wouldn't he be in the top pair?Yikes! Zaitsev on the top pairing and two rookies on the second pair.
I can’t see Babcock rolling the dice on that group.
This ain't Manitoba where Americans like Stasny up and leave. Americans like TO and playing for the Leafs. ie. JVR.Gardiner isn't from Ontario. Tavares is, that's why he signed in Toronto.
JVR openly stated he would have signed with the Leafs for a discount to stay. Leafs chose Tavares instead.JVR was traded to the Leafs and bolted as soon as he become a UFA...
As for the poll, I vote $6 million.
More like leafs chose marleau. I may be in the minority but I wish we kept JVR rather than signing marleau.JVR openly stated he would have signed with the Leafs for a discount to stay. Leafs chose Tavares instead.
JVR was traded to the Leafs and bolted as soon as he become a UFA...
As for the poll, I vote $6 million.
Lots of ifs. The odds of Zaitsev becoming a top pairing defenseman look long and longer. He’s soon going to be 27 years old and he’s dreadful defensively. It’s hard to see how that changes at his age.If Zaitsevs has a third year under his belt and proves he can play 22 min a night, why wouldn't he be in the top pair?
Sandin Liljegren (20)
Dermott Ozhiganov (18)
I'd be okay if the second and third pair alternate, but Sandin and Liljegren may just dominate the AHL this year playing 25 min a night and just take it from there next year..
They signed Marleau because they didn’t want to keep JVR. Perfect transitional winger who took Marner and Matthews in that provides leadership.More like leafs chose marleau. I may be in the minority but I wish we kept JVR rather than signing marleau.
2nd best PKer on a top 10 pk team. Ok.Lots of ifs. The odds of Zaitsev becoming a top pairing defenseman look long and longer. He’s soon going to be 27 years old and he’s dreadful defensively. It’s hard to see how that changes at his age.
JVR was traded to the Leafs and bolted as soon as he become a UFA...
As for the poll, I vote $6 million.
Gardiner continues to be the most underrated player on HF. Only bright spot if he leaves will be watching everyone suddenly "see" how good of a D is and how elite of a player he is. All people see is a game 7 but he has two years before that and is off to that start again of just elite play after elite play. Then people will claim it was Leaf fans who were hard on him on here haha.
I mean, you gotta be the best when it matters. He will have the chance to rectify his performance this year. If he does the same thing, will you really forgive him?
He does look good in preseason though.
I'm not even a Jets fan, but good one man. Regardless, Wheeler, Helly, and Byfuglien sure bolted when they had the chance eh. Again, good one.This ain't Manitoba where Americans like Stasny up and leave. Americans like TO and playing for the Leafs. ie. JVR.
JVR was traded to the Leafs and bolted as soon as he become a UFA...
JVR openly stated he would have signed with the Leafs for a discount to stay. Leafs chose Tavares instead.