What is ailing the Oilers?

[Luigi Lemieux]

Huh? That Penguins team was stacked down the middle, with good goaltending from Barrasso and ended up 2nd in Eastern conference only getting beat by Panthers in 7 games after Francis got injured. This Oilers team are worse at every position. Yes, even when you compare McDavid and Draisaitl to Lemieux and Jagr.

Yea current oilers are nowhere near as good as that penguins team. Adjusted for era it's arguably the best offensive team of all time. They were #2 in the NHL in wins behind Detroit. Edmonton might miss the playoffs.

 

[HugginThePost]

Edmonton’s issues from top to bottom, ranked in order of importance:

1. Poor goaltending.
2. Poor coaching.
3. Poor management.
4. Poor defence.
5. Subpar offensive depth.

I've been led to believe that "the league is out to get us, just look a the reffing" should be at the top of the list.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

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[VivaLasVegas]

This thread is on page 56

And it's funny as hell too.

 

[Sentinel]

And? How does that compare to now? If your goalie can't stop a beachball it doesn't matter who's PKing in front of him. Now tell me, during the DPE, who did those teams have in net?

Detroit had Chris Osgood. That did not prevent Fedorov and Shanahan from killing penalties.

 

[Rehabguy]

The problem is Oilers and its fans have for decades player worshipped 1 or 2 players on any given team at the expense of winning games. Regardless of the coach or management it has always ended in disaster. The day the Oilers and its fans stop putting their eggs in one basket is the day they will end this nightmare.

 

[Cup or Bust]

This thread is on page 56

And most people are just posting the same things that are already posted numerous times throughout.

 

[Cup or Bust]

The problem is Oilers and its fans have for decades player worshipped 1 or 2 players on any given team at the expense of winning games. Regardless of the coach or management it has always ended in disaster. The day the Oilers and its fans stop putting their eggs in one basket is the day they will end this nightmare.

Yeah, that is the problem alright. The fans......

 

[KrisLetAngry]

If you have 2 super star centre's playing average and then below average defense (bottom of the league) and they get paid 21 million dollars it may make it challenging to do well.

I think some posters have made a good point. If you see a player not back check and they get 24 minutes in a game why then do that yourself?

You already aren't getting 'earned time'
I posted earlier the highest ice time by a forward after the top 6 is 11 minutes.
That is extremely low for the 7th forward in my opinion.

It's tough but maybe less minutes and more effort by the stars. Maybe make a culture change?

 

[Rubi]

And most people are just posting the same things that are already posted numerous times throughout.

Looks like if you give Oiler haters an inch they'll take a mile at every opportunity.
Tough to understand.

 

[KingAlfie11]

Jeff Skinner says hello.

I think their lack of depth makes them easier to figure out as well. They got off to a hot start as teams locked in their systems and lineups- in any imperfectly executed game plan, ya, McD and Drai will dominate- but once teams see ‘em once or have their plans practiced a few times that team has gotta be one of the easier ones to shut down/control.

And Erik Karlsson says hello too, I know he's been better this season but that contract ouch!

 

[Rehabguy]

Looks like if you give Oiler haters an inch they'll take a mile at every opportunity.
Tough to understand.

Why would anyone hate the Oilers? We’re just tired of watching the same sad story year after year. Same with Buffalo. Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, McDavid. Can't you guys make it work for once? Enough already!

 

[StevenF1919]

Oilers' leading youngsters/best players have always been poor defensively (see Hall, Eberle). RNH is only competent there but not a leader.

Halls defensive game was not as bad as people made it out to be. He put a lot more effort into backchecking than McDrai do. At the very least, the Oilers consistently outshot and outscored the opposition when Hall was on the ice, by a large margin. Can't say the same for Connor and Leon.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

The problem is Oilers and its fans have for decades player worshipped 1 or 2 players on any given team at the expense of winning games. Regardless of the coach or management it has always ended in disaster. The day the Oilers and its fans stop putting their eggs in one basket is the day they will end this nightmare.

I want you to go and listen to some of the Bob Nicholson or Kevin Lowe press conferences over the years. If you come back and say "Yeah, these guys should be in charge of a hockey team", then I'd recommend concussion protocol.

If trading McDavid meant getting a Cup then I'd be all for it. But the Oilers don't win trades for starters, and trading a generational talent would be absolutely mind bogglingly stupid.

The day the Oilers brass takes the business of hockey seriously instead of hiring their buddies from the old days is the day the Oilers become a legit contender. Finger pointing at the players is EXACTLY the kind of garbage our media spews around here.

Do you remember the days of Garth Snow? Yeah, those days haven't left the Oilers yet.

 

[GrumpyKoala]

I watched Brossoit in Vegas on Sunday and couldn't help thinking he would be a huge upgrade over any goalie that Edmonton currently plays.

That the catch 22 thing, put him back between edmonton pipes and you will see his number go down.

.883 in Edmonton in 2017
Magically when up to. 925 in Winnipeg the next year

Of course people still think edmonton D have nothing to do with avreage goaltending.

"It not Tippet fault, he can't stop the puck himself..."
-forgettable nyr colour guy

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

He might just need to look in the mirror. Nicholson and Holland are just the new guys in his long list of hires that haven't worked out. At what point do you question the man making these hires? When there is one constant to a team underperforming for 14 years since their arrival, I'd sort of question that guy.

The problem is we can't do anything about Katz unless you guys can find us a multi billionaire who wont move the team to Houston or something. We absolutely can and should do something about Nicholson/Holland.

 

[93LEAFS]

The problem is we can't do anything about Katz unless you guys can find us a multi billionaire who wont move the team to Houston or something. We absolutely can and should do something about Nicholson/Holland.

Except why is there any faith the next person will do better? When there is a long track-record of the person making the hirings being terrible at it.

 

[Rubi]

When it rains it pours for this team. They play the Leafs tomorrow and McDavid just tested positive for Covid.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Except why is there any faith the next person will do better? When there is a long track-record of the person making the hirings being terrible at it.

Unfortunately the owner is the one thing you cannot change unless they sell or croak.

 

[93LEAFS]

When it rains it pours for this team. They play the Leafs tomorrow and McDavid just tested positive for Covid.

Matthews tested positive on a rapid, and then negative on a PCR. So, we'll see.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

When it rains it pours for this team. They play the Leafs tomorrow and McDavid just tested positive for Covid.

Well darn that's a match that would be hype.

Hopefully McDavid gets a negative.

Seriously wanted to catch a period and highlights of the game

 

[Cup or Bust]

Looks like if you give Oiler haters an inch they'll take a mile at every opportunity.
Tough to understand.

I certainly have no interest in conversing with a person like yourself so I don't really care what you think.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Who is saying they are the MAIN problem?

They don't play a speck of defense which in turn makes them have to outscore the other team.

They can have all those individual trophies...no one gives a damn lol. I'm gonna wear my Hart Trophy t shirt????

LOL.

Look through this very thread and you will find several posts that start with, 'the real problem is' and then something about Draisaitl and McDavid.

 

[Rehabguy]

I want you to go and listen to some of the Bob Nicholson or Kevin Lowe press conferences over the years. If you come back and say "Yeah, these guys should be in charge of a hockey team", then I'd recommend concussion protocol.

If trading McDavid meant getting a Cup then I'd be all for it. But the Oilers don't win trades for starters, and trading a generational talent would be absolutely mind bogglingly stupid.

The day the Oilers brass takes the business of hockey seriously instead of hiring their buddies from the old days is the day the Oilers become a legit contender. Finger pointing at the players is EXACTLY the kind of garbage our media spews around here.

Do you remember the days of Garth Snow? Yeah, those days haven't left the Oilers yet.

Garth Snow built today’s Islander team.

Barzal
Pelech
Pulock
Lee
Nelson
Bailey
Beavillier
Cizikas
Martin
Clutterbuck
Sorokin
Mayfield
Bellows

yup all Snow.

 

[Rubi]

I certainly have no interest in conversing with a person like yourself so I don't really care what you think.

Good. Put me on ignore.