I have it an E.
Hamonic for a 3rd-A+. Getting rid of Hamonic's cap hit for any positive was in my view an exceptional result. I hope for the Senators' sake he rebounds, but even if he does, I like this trade.
Dermott for a 3rd. Wait and See. It isn't obviously good or bad-it depends on how Dermott works out.
Claiming Richardson-F. I suspect it was done with a view to having Richardson replace somebody that ended up not being traded. I don't like using up a roster spot on Richardson that might be useful for a college or European free agent.
Motte for a 4th- C-? C? If that's all they could get, it is a close question whether it is worthwhile bothering with the trade.
Failure to move players; People on here disagree on what players should have been moved. I am of the view (probably not popular here these days) that there are some players it is dangerous to keep-and they include some of the Canucks' very best players.
JT Miller-Look, he won't be worth 7 x $9 million starting in 2023-24 and ending in 2029-30. He also isn't likely to want to offer the Canucks a home-town discount. More likely he'll look for an immediately winning program, probably preferring the east. One thing Larry Brooks wrote that was really unpopular with Canucks fans but imo obviously true was that Miller's value will never be higher than it was before this year's deadline. I know he is a leader and the players look up to him and would be upset with him gone, but does anybody think the 2021-22 Canucks are really going anywhere? Larry Brooks was right. At a trade deadline good players are at a premium, before the draft draft picks are at a premium and in the later offseason values may be ok if a deal can be made, but an acquiring team will have lost out on the benefit of having Miller for the 2022 playoffs when his cap hit doesn't count, a considerable loss to them.
The Miller trade in my view was one of Benning's silliest because the Canucks were never going to be a contender during Miller's contract so him improving them enough to get worse draft picks wasn't in their long term interests, but Miller performed so well the trade had a chance to work. The Canucks got a couple of seasons out of Miller and had the chance at this deadline to get more for him than they gave up and more than they will get for him in the future. The extra playoff run considerably increased his value for this deadline and that won't be there in the future.
I know this is an unpopular opinion but I think the Canucks made a serious mistake keeping him this deadline. They may have thought they weren't offered enough, but it is highly unlikely that they'll get more later and pretty much certain that what they were offered was worth more than the 1st and 3rd round picks they paid to acquire him. They may still get a decent package for him later, but it will almost certainly be less than they could have gotten at this deadline.
Brock Boeser-this has been hashed to death. There is a solid risk of losing him for nothing in the summer of 2023 after overpaying to keep him for next season. The playoff run this season would have added some value compared with what he'll get later.
Bo Horvat-He rates to go to unrestricted free agency in a year. His performance against his current contract is pretty good and I don't think he has any intention of signing an extension with the Canucks when he can pick his spot and go to a winning organization. He's been open enough in the past about the effect of losing and that he isn't a young player any more. I think they could have gotten a great return for him this deadline.
There are others that would have been nice to move: Michael Ferland, Tyler Myers, Tucker Poolman, Tanner Pearson, Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Jason Dickinson and Jaroslav Halak the obvious ones, but Hamonic was also in that group of players for whom there would be little interest in acquiring their contracts, the returns would be small or negative and with Allvin getting rid of Hamonic's contract it is hard to fault Allvin for failing to pull more rabbits out of his hat.
Then there is another group, the most obvious being Garland and Schenn. There are both performing fine against their contracts, Schenn is old enough that the thought of losing him for nothing in a year isn't a horrible thought and Garland is locked up for several seasons. I don't see much likelihood that an offer for Schenn would have been enough to make moving him worthwhile and am fine keeping Garland.
Hamonic for a 3rd-A+. Getting rid of Hamonic's cap hit for any positive was in my view an exceptional result. I hope for the Senators' sake he rebounds, but even if he does, I like this trade.
Dermott for a 3rd. Wait and See. It isn't obviously good or bad-it depends on how Dermott works out.
Claiming Richardson-F. I suspect it was done with a view to having Richardson replace somebody that ended up not being traded. I don't like using up a roster spot on Richardson that might be useful for a college or European free agent.
Motte for a 4th- C-? C? If that's all they could get, it is a close question whether it is worthwhile bothering with the trade.
Failure to move players; People on here disagree on what players should have been moved. I am of the view (probably not popular here these days) that there are some players it is dangerous to keep-and they include some of the Canucks' very best players.
JT Miller-Look, he won't be worth 7 x $9 million starting in 2023-24 and ending in 2029-30. He also isn't likely to want to offer the Canucks a home-town discount. More likely he'll look for an immediately winning program, probably preferring the east. One thing Larry Brooks wrote that was really unpopular with Canucks fans but imo obviously true was that Miller's value will never be higher than it was before this year's deadline. I know he is a leader and the players look up to him and would be upset with him gone, but does anybody think the 2021-22 Canucks are really going anywhere? Larry Brooks was right. At a trade deadline good players are at a premium, before the draft draft picks are at a premium and in the later offseason values may be ok if a deal can be made, but an acquiring team will have lost out on the benefit of having Miller for the 2022 playoffs when his cap hit doesn't count, a considerable loss to them.
The Miller trade in my view was one of Benning's silliest because the Canucks were never going to be a contender during Miller's contract so him improving them enough to get worse draft picks wasn't in their long term interests, but Miller performed so well the trade had a chance to work. The Canucks got a couple of seasons out of Miller and had the chance at this deadline to get more for him than they gave up and more than they will get for him in the future. The extra playoff run considerably increased his value for this deadline and that won't be there in the future.
I know this is an unpopular opinion but I think the Canucks made a serious mistake keeping him this deadline. They may have thought they weren't offered enough, but it is highly unlikely that they'll get more later and pretty much certain that what they were offered was worth more than the 1st and 3rd round picks they paid to acquire him. They may still get a decent package for him later, but it will almost certainly be less than they could have gotten at this deadline.
Brock Boeser-this has been hashed to death. There is a solid risk of losing him for nothing in the summer of 2023 after overpaying to keep him for next season. The playoff run this season would have added some value compared with what he'll get later.
Bo Horvat-He rates to go to unrestricted free agency in a year. His performance against his current contract is pretty good and I don't think he has any intention of signing an extension with the Canucks when he can pick his spot and go to a winning organization. He's been open enough in the past about the effect of losing and that he isn't a young player any more. I think they could have gotten a great return for him this deadline.
There are others that would have been nice to move: Michael Ferland, Tyler Myers, Tucker Poolman, Tanner Pearson, Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Jason Dickinson and Jaroslav Halak the obvious ones, but Hamonic was also in that group of players for whom there would be little interest in acquiring their contracts, the returns would be small or negative and with Allvin getting rid of Hamonic's contract it is hard to fault Allvin for failing to pull more rabbits out of his hat.
Then there is another group, the most obvious being Garland and Schenn. There are both performing fine against their contracts, Schenn is old enough that the thought of losing him for nothing in a year isn't a horrible thought and Garland is locked up for several seasons. I don't see much likelihood that an offer for Schenn would have been enough to make moving him worthwhile and am fine keeping Garland.
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