Speculation: What center should Carolina go after?

[namttebih]

E. Staal at the TD

 

[namttebih]

It's too bad as Duchene and Skinner would have been fun to watch together

 

[connormcmuffin]

I'd love to see Duchene in Carolina for the next rebuild (he's not the guy that moves the needle)

2007-08	Brampton Battalion	OHL	64	30	20	50	22	-2	5	1	1	2	10
2008-09	Brampton Battalion	OHL	57	31	48	79	42	32	21	14	12	26	21
2009-10	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	81	24	31	55	16	1	6	0	3	3	0
2010-11	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	80	27	40	67	33	-8	--	--	--	--	--
2011-12	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	58	14	14	28	8	-11	--	--	--	--	--
2012-13	Frolunda HC	SEL	19	4	10	14	12	10	--	--	--	--	--
2012-13	Ambri-Piotta	Swiss-A	4	2	3	5	2	2	--	--	--	--	--
2012-13	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	47	17	26	43	12	-12	--	--	--	--	--
2013-14	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	71	23	47	70	19	8	2	0	3	3	2
2014-15	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	82	21	34	55	16	3	--	--	--	--	--
2015-16	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	76	30	29	59	24	-8	--	--	--	--	--
2016-17	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	77	18	23	41	12	-34	--	--	--	--	--
2017-18	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	14	4	6	10	4	1	--	--	--	--	--
2017-18	Ottawa Senators	NHL	68	23	26	49	14	-23	--	--	--	--	--

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

He sure was great in 2013-2014... but meh after

 

[Draiskull]

Any chance they just move Aho to middle permanently?

 

[Kshahdoo]

If you want Pesce then we will need a Marner or Nylander and you're probably going to have to add.

Well, Kadri is probably a more valuable player, than Nylander right now. And he isn't old and signed to a good contract.

 

[bluedevil58]

Any chance they just move Aho to middle permanently?

That's already the plan.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I don't think they'll go after anyone right now. They'll try Aho and Necas at C and still will have Rask when he returns from injury.

 

[Devilsrock17]

Duchene,Krejci

 

[NotOpie]

Obv Duchene. He's the best one available and they could probably send that ****ty Skinner return to Ottawa and Dorion would accept because of Melnyk having trouble breathing due to that 6m paycheck.

Matt Duchene.

I'd go after Matt Duchene....

Faulk for Duchene makes sense to me. Faulk would be somewhat of a replacement for Karlsson.

Duchene is the answer.

While Duchene might be AN answer for the Canes, there's no way Justin Faulk waives his limited NTC (15 teams) to go to the shit show that is Ottawa at the moment (Senators fans deserve much better). I'd move the 2020 1st and a prospect for Duchene (he's a rental). Otherwise I'm with @Boom Boom Apathy, I think the Canes wait out Rask's injury, playing Wallmark and/or others as the 4C. Aho, Staal, and Necas are now the likely top 3 C's for now.

 

[bleedgreen]

Long term Duchene or maybe Johnson is something that could happen but as others have said it seems the team wants to see what Aho has to offer as a center and to see if Necas is ready for at least the third line spot.

Unless it goes disastrously in preseason I think those two now are starting the season as centers.

Maybe starting at the halfway point they’d consider adding. We need to add a goalie more than a top center regardless.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

From Ottawa; Duchene, Stone, Ryan
From Carolina; Faulk, Jake Bean, 2019 1st, conditional picks dependent on Duchene/Stone resigning.

 

[bleedgreen]

If we’re getting Duchene and Stone with knowledge we can get them signed and we have to take Ryan to get it done I don’t see how we don’t take a long hard look at that.

That offer is bad for Ottawa not us, depending on the conditional picks.

 

[Fogelhund]

Without taking on Ryan, the cost to obtain Duchene and Stone would be significantly higher. You are getting at worst a #2C, and a Top pairing winger for what are essentially spare parts for Carolina. Of course the parts all have value, but they aren't needed now, and the addition of these three guys has to make you a serious contender in the East. I say this as Leafs fan....

 

[SaskCanesFan]

If Ottawa ships out Karlsson, Duchene and Stone, won't they need Ryan to make the cap floor? Gotta be close

 

[blinkman360]

Brock Nelson. Don't mind that he plays center poorly, we'll give you a nice discount.

 

[DFC]

Given they can probably land Duchene for the price of his plane ticket, he's probably the guy.

 

[NotOpie]

Yeah, that deal would have to include somebody like Rask to get the Sens to the cap floor.

 

[Patagonia]

I'd love to see Duchene in Carolina for the next rebuild (he's not the guy that moves the needle)

2007-08	Brampton Battalion	OHL	64	30	20	50	22	-2	5	1	1	2	10
2008-09	Brampton Battalion	OHL	57	31	48	79	42	32	21	14	12	26	21
2009-10	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	81	24	31	55	16	1	6	0	3	3	0
2010-11	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	80	27	40	67	33	-8	--	--	--	--	--
2011-12	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	58	14	14	28	8	-11	--	--	--	--	--
2012-13	Frolunda HC	SEL	19	4	10	14	12	10	--	--	--	--	--
2012-13	Ambri-Piotta	Swiss-A	4	2	3	5	2	2	--	--	--	--	--
2012-13	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	47	17	26	43	12	-12	--	--	--	--	--
2013-14	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	71	23	47	70	19	8	2	0	3	3	2
2014-15	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	82	21	34	55	16	3	--	--	--	--	--
2015-16	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	76	30	29	59	24	-8	--	--	--	--	--
2016-17	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	77	18	23	41	12	-34	--	--	--	--	--
2017-18	Colorado Avalanche	NHL	14	4	6	10	4	1	--	--	--	--	--
2017-18	Ottawa Senators	NHL	68	23	26	49	14	-23	--	--	--	--	--

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

He sure was great in 2013-2014... but meh after

Are you for real?

McDavid must be a bust because the Oilers just had another horrible season.

 

[Patagonia]

Given they can probably land Duchene for the price of his plane ticket, he's probably the guy.

I can’t foresee a better fit and given the poor return for EK, Canes should toss a low ball offer. Duchene is playing for a new deal anyways, so he will try to light it up.

However, given they dumped Skinner due to impending UFA, not sure if they would want Duchene without an extension.

 

[EXTRAS]

Will nylander

 

[Mr Positive]

Faulk for Duchene makes sense to me. Faulk would be somewhat of a replacement for Karlsson.

Faulk's NTC can block half the league though.

 

[NotOpie]

If Duchene's the target, then a futures package with maybe one roster player not named Faulk (and a willingness to eat Ryan's salary) is probably the currency of the day.

 

[connormcmuffin]

Are you for real?

McDavid must be a bust because the Oilers just had another horrible season.

He hasn't cracked 60 points in the last four years and he's once scored 30, just 30, didn't even break 30

He's so overrated but cool that you think he's McDavid

 

[mondo3]

How about RNH? Edmonton needs cap space

 

[Patagonia]

He hasn't cracked 60 points in the last four years and he's once scored 30, just 30, didn't even break 30

He's so overrated but cool that you think he's McDavid

So why did you quote with team win/loss records?:

"I'd love to see Duchene in Carolina for the next rebuild (he's not the guy that moves the needle)"

You accused an inability to impact the team, so this also reflects on someone like McDavid that would also be considered a bust. Oilers significantly regressed and not expected to be much better this season. If you dislike Duchene don't cherry pick team win/loss records to justify your obvious bias.