Speculation: What are the odds?

Lay Z Boy GM

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Sep 8, 2010
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I thought we should trade the pick earlier in the season, because I didn't expect us to be this bad.. But now I think we need to hang onto it, Ekblad would be good for the Oilers even if we already have loads of youth. I was hoping we could trade the pick early and end up higher in the standings, but that's just a pipe dream.

Add another piece to the puzzle, hopefully an actual difference-maker, and then start trading guys like Gagner and Hemsky. I don't have much faith in MacT pulling this off and finding the right mix though.
 

smackdaddy

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Nov 24, 2006
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No, it doesn't necessarily get you that. So Phoenix trades us OEL for Eberle + 2nd overall. What does that lead them with? They've still got a decent group of d-men, but they've gotta wait for Ekblad to reach his presumed potential.

They've got a competitive team that's projected to make the playoffs now. Why would they trade their MVP for a 1st line winger and a potential franchise d-man?

Franchise players more or less only get traded when they piss off their team (Thorton), are going to free agency (has happened many times before) or ask to be traded(Happens every year too).

You know when arrogant Phonix fans say they want two of Hopkins, Hall and Eberle for Oel? They're downright serious. No. Not suggesting that value is there. It's just that hard to pry a franchise d-man who's happy to play where he is away from a team.

Exactly. Why would they trade him? They wouldn't. If we're trying to pry someone like OEL from Phoenix we better be ready to make them an offer they can't refuse. Probably the dumbest GMs in the league go in this direction to acquire players.

You need to identify circumstance and capitalize on opportunities. All great players were traded due to circumstance. Pronger, Heatley, Hossa, Phaneuf, Bouwmeester. Those are the deals we should be waiting for, and when the opportunity rises, we jump on it.

If the cap creeps up on some team like St Louis or something and they have to jettison a defenseman, that's the time to make an offer because the value is at its lowest.

Weber is likely the next top defenseman we could likely see moved. And if the circumstance around Nashville becomes money, how attractive would a top 5 pick + a highly rated prospect be? If the philosophy behind the move is rebuilding, then we're the perfect partner.

It's easy to win trades.. but it starts with sound management and solid ownership. It's the franchises without them that are the ones that end up trading their superstars.
 

ElFossum

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Exactly. Why would they trade him? They wouldn't. If we're trying to pry someone like OEL from Phoenix we better be ready to make them an offer they can't refuse. Probably the dumbest GMs in the league go in this direction to acquire players.

You need to identify circumstance and capitalize on opportunities. All great players were traded due to circumstance. Pronger, Heatley, Hossa, Phaneuf, Bouwmeester. Those are the deals we should be waiting for, and when the opportunity rises, we jump on it.

If the cap creeps up on some team like St Louis or something and they have to jettison a defenseman, that's the time to make an offer because the value is at its lowest.

Weber is likely the next top defenseman we could likely see moved. And if the circumstance around Nashville becomes money, how attractive would a top 5 pick + a highly rated prospect be? If the philosophy behind the move is rebuilding, then we're the perfect partner.

It's easy to win trades.. but it starts with sound management and solid ownership. It's the franchises without them that are the ones that end up trading their superstars.

Buy low, sell high. Opportunistic brass. Something I have yet to see that we have (consistently).
 

thadd

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Jun 9, 2007
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Exactly. Why would they trade him? They wouldn't. If we're trying to pry someone like OEL from Phoenix we better be ready to make them an offer they can't refuse. Probably the dumbest GMs in the league go in this direction to acquire players.

You need to identify circumstance and capitalize on opportunities. All great players were traded due to circumstance. Pronger, Heatley, Hossa, Phaneuf, Bouwmeester. Those are the deals we should be waiting for, and when the opportunity rises, we jump on it.

If the cap creeps up on some team like St Louis or something and they have to jettison a defenseman, that's the time to make an offer because the value is at its lowest.

Weber is likely the next top defenseman we could likely see moved. And if the circumstance around Nashville becomes money, how attractive would a top 5 pick + a highly rated prospect be? If the philosophy behind the move is rebuilding, then we're the perfect partner.


It's easy to win trades.. but it starts with sound management and solid ownership. It's the franchises without them that are the ones that end up trading their superstars.

I totally disagree with the bolded stuff.

The cap isn't going to creep up on anyone any time soon.

1: Nashville has put so much money into Weber that they can't afford to trade him. Maybe Jones will be available for a kings ransom in a year or two.

2: Given the fact that the NHL projects the cap it raise upto 71M next season and it being very likely that the cap will be between 80 and 82M the season after due to that huge TV deal, nobody is going to be in cap trouble any time soon.
 

TylerSVT*

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Want Weber? It would take that #2 pick + Yakupov IMO.

Why? Yakupov's value is bottom of the barrel low, and Ekblad can only hope to turn into Weber.

Does anyone on here think the Oilers can go on a late season run?
 

jukon

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Mar 17, 2011
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So Buffalo and Florida have some pretty good defensive prospects. If they pick before us do you think they would choose a forward over Ekblad?

I think if NYI picks ahead of us we will miss out.
 

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