What are the expectations for Tyson Jost?

[Metallo]

He's been okay the last couple games, but it's too little, too late, IMO. Unless he REALLY starts playing like a top six forward the next couple of months (unlikely to say the least), I think he's done here. There's just not a role for him on this team even if he does occasionally chip in a point here and there.

If he played like a good 3C I’d keep him. It’s not top-6 or nothing for me.

 

[AvsFan29]

If he played like a good 3C I’d keep him. It’s not top-6 or nothing for me.

Bowers makes things a bit tricky. He’s on fire

 

[Metallo]

Bowers makes things a bit tricky. He’s on fire

That could be a good problem to have.

 

[JoeSakic13]

Bowers makes things a bit tricky. He’s on fire

Not to mention Newhook potentially challenging for that spot over the next couple seasons.

 

[Pokecheque]

I mean, I suppose it's a good thing when Tyson Jost is pretty much the worst player on the team. You have a pretty good team in that case.

I'm not even sure who the worst player in '16-17 was. Best guess is probably...Carl Soderberg.

 

[Hennessy]

Jesus. Are we doing this? The Jost thread gets hits? Get a life. As much as we can criticize, he deserves to be out of this.

 

[McMetal]

I mean, I suppose it's a good thing when Tyson Jost is pretty much the worst player on the team. You have a pretty good team in that case.

I'm not even sure who the worst player in '16-17 was. Best guess is probably...Carl Soderberg.

Colborne, by a mile. But you could easily be forgiven for forgetting he existed.

 

[Pokecheque]

Colborne, by a mile. But you could easily be forgiven for forgetting he existed.

Oh, yeah...that'd be the one.

 

[AvsFan29]

Jesus. Are we doing this? The Jost thread gets hits? Get a life. As much as we can criticize, he deserves to be out of this.

Deserves to be left out of his own thread?

 

[Pokecheque]

Jesus. Are we doing this? The Jost thread gets hits? Get a life. As much as we can criticize, he deserves to be out of this.

Meh...if you don't like it, ignore the thread. There's nothing wrong with discussing him.

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

Bowers makes things a bit tricky. He’s on fire

Having two good #3C types isn't a bad thing. PEB will break down at some point.

Of Jost Kamenev and Bowers hopefully you can fill both #3C and #4C spot internally.

 

[Pokecheque]

PEB was brought in to be the 4C, 3C is overworking him just a little, but having Calvert alongside him helps immensely.

 

[AvsGuy]

Jost played a good game

There may be something to salvage out of him yet

 

[AvsFan29]

Having two good #3C types isn't a bad thing. PEB will break down at some point.

Of Jost Kamenev and Bowers hopefully you can fill both #3C and #4C spot internally.

I like Kam and Bowers chances

 

[Pokecheque]

Jost played a good game

There may be something to salvage out of him yet

Yeah, we keep saying that, don't we? Been over two years of that.

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

PEB was brought in to be the 4C, 3C is overworking him just a little, but having Calvert alongside him helps immensely.

And PEB will eventually break down. And if there's no internal replacement you are forced to sign him for another 2 or 3 years and play him too much as he's breaking down.

It's the Cody Mcleod problem.

They desperately need JTC Jost Kamenev and others to start pushing PEB and Calbert down the lineup next year.

 

[AvsRobin]

And PEB will eventually break down. And if there's no internal replacement you are forced to sign him for another 2 or 3 years and play him too much as he's breaking down.

It's the Cody Mcleod problem.

They desperately need JTC Jost Kamenev and others to start pushing PEB and Calbert down the lineup next year.

It's not that hard to find a new PEB.

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

I mean, I suppose it's a good thing when Tyson Jost is pretty much the worst player on the team. You have a pretty good team in that case.

I'm not even sure who the worst player in '16-17 was. Best guess is probably...Carl Soderberg.

Colborne, by a mile. But you could easily be forgiven for forgetting he existed.

no way, it was Tyutin. Tyutin that year was probably the worst player to wear an Avs uniform since Zanon.

 

[Pokecheque]

And PEB will eventually break down. And if there's no internal replacement you are forced to sign him for another 2 or 3 years and play him too much as he's breaking down.

It's the Cody Mcleod problem.

They desperately need JTC Jost Kamenev and others to start pushing PEB and Calbert down the lineup next year.

Eh, not worried, they have Kamenev, O’Connor, and Bowers who should be able to do that.

I’m not concerned about Calvert at all. If anything he’s improved his skill set and conditioning since joining the Avs. Both he and PEB are monumentally superior to Cody McLeod, who was pretty much done as an NHL player by the time the Avs dealt him.

 

[rmthomson21]

Eh, not worried, they have Kamenev, O’Connor, and Bowers who should be able to do that.

I’m not concerned about Calvert at all. If anything he’s improved his skill set and conditioning since joining the Avs. Both he and PEB are monumentally superior to Cody McLeod, who was pretty much done as an NHL player by the time the Avs dealt him.

Yeah, Calvert seems to be having his own kind of mini-breakout season, which makes sense given how much he changed and worked on over the off-season - I'm not saying he's suddenly gonna become a top-6 player, but he's definitely had his own version of a renaissance as a player this year.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Yeah, Calvert seems to be having his own kind of mini-breakout season, which makes sense given how much he changed and worked on over the off-season - I'm not saying he's suddenly gonna become a top-6 player, but he's definitely had his own version of a renaissance as a player this year.

Probably his peak season. He's 30 so it's not like he's going to turn into some new player.

 

[Pokecheque]

I'm not expecting any real improvement per se, but I don't necessarily see a rapid decline either. Either way he's only signed for one more season after this.

The guy I'm curious about is Nieto. It sure seems like this is his final season in Colorado, but...I dunno...I still think he's an immensely good defensive forward, I wouldn't be opposed to him sticking around.

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

Eh, not worried, they have Kamenev, O’Connor, and Bowers who should be able to do that.

I’m not concerned about Calvert at all. If anything he’s improved his skill set and conditioning since joining the Avs. Both he and PEB are monumentally superior to Cody McLeod, who was pretty much done as an NHL player by the time the Avs dealt him.

Guys like PEB and Calvert who are high motor do anything to make a play are great up until their health/speed drops off just a little and they seem to become useless overnight.

These are the kind of guys a good team with sustainable success can replace internally every few years. Or in Calverts case push him back down the lineup as he ages and starts to slightly regress.

To put it another way... If you can't even develop third and fourth liners within the system... Boy are you screwed.

The Avs seem to be doing better in that part of things. I'm not worried about the ability to develop those type of guys. But Calvert and PEBs next contracts could be ugly if they don't seem to have other options.

 

[henchman21]

The guy I'm curious about is Nieto. It sure seems like this is his final season in Colorado, but...I dunno...I still think he's an immensely good defensive forward, I wouldn't be opposed to him sticking around.

He's going to be a real bargain signing this summer for somebody.

 

[SaltySkywalker]

I mean, I suppose it's a good thing when Tyson Jost is pretty much the worst player on the team. You have a pretty good team in that case.

I'm not even sure who the worst player in '16-17 was. Best guess is probably...Carl Soderberg.

well, Jost is worse than Carl so...