We have the Cap room!! 2019-20 UFA Targets??

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  1. AmericanDream

    AmericanDream Adopted Canadian

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    We will have some flexibility for once to finally add a potential big piece to this team. The Hawks have gotten off to a better start than most of us on here (minus myself and a few others of course) could have thought possible.

    We have a number of young "guns" ready to step into roles next year as Boqvist, Mitchell, Beaudin, and Krys all could be ready for a jump on the blue line. Hillman, Snuggerud, and Dahlstrom all at the AHL level look decent as well..

    A few forwards of interest would be Evan Barratt, Artur Kayumov, Jake Wise and Tim Soderlund...with an expected Victor Edjsell and Dylan Sikura as making their way to the NHL this season...

    But what about a bigger fish?? We have the chance to add some real talent in what could be one of the best free agent classes in a long time- depending on if we move AA or not, we will have over $15+ mil in cap space ($21+ if we move him) next season (Schmaltz needs to be resigned, maybe a 3 x $4.5 for him), and a few minor names as well like Hayden, Sikura and Kahun...we have no idea what the cap will go up to next year, but the revenue jump and the Canadian dollar seem to be indicating another $3 mil plus could be in line.

    Take a look and see:

    PLAYER (77)TEAMTYPEAGEPOS.SHOOTSGPGAPWGAASV%2018-2019 CAP HIT
    Erik KarlssonSJSUFA29DR844$6,500,000
    Tyler MyersWPGUFA29DR9112$5,500,000
    Jay BouwmeesterSTLUFA36DL711$5,400,000
    Alexander EdlerVANUFA33DL955$5,000,000
    Zdeno CharaBOSUFA42DL8112$5,000,000
    Marc MethotDALUFA34DL6$4,900,000
    Niklas KronwallDETUFA38DL6$4,750,000
    Anton StralmanTBLUFA33DR7123$4,500,000
    Jake GardinerTORUFA29DL966$4,050,000
    Braydon CoburnTBLUFA34DL722$3,700,000
    Michael Del ZottoVANUFA29DL2$3,000,000
    Ron HainseyTORUFA38DL9224$3,000,000
    Carl GunnarssonSTLUFA32DL$2,900,000
    Adam McQuaidNYRUFA32DR611$2,750,000
    Ben LovejoyNJDUFA35DR511$2,666,667
    Patrik NemethCOLUFA27DL711$2,500,000
    Jan RuttaCHIUFA29DR833$2,300,000
    Brooks OrpikWASUFA39DL8112$2,500,000
    Nate SchmidtVGKUFA28DL$2,225,000
    Alex PetrovicFLAUFA27DR611$1,950,000
    Dan GirardiTBLUFA35DR733$3,611,111
    Deryk EngellandVGKUFA37DR6$1,500,000
    Luca SbisaNYIUFA29DL311$1,500,000
    Ben ChiarotWPGUFA28DL9213$1,400,000
    Roman PolakDALUFA33DR5$1,300,000
    Andrej SustrANAUFA28DR4$1,300,000
    Robert BortuzzoSTLUFA30DR511$1,150,000
    Jordie BennMTLUFA32DL7$1,100,000
    Chris WidemanOTTUFA29DR722$1,000,000
    Bogdan KiselevichFLAUFA29DL411$925,000
    Korbinian HolzerANAUFA31DR$900,000
    Nick JensenDETUFA29DR8213$812,500
    Dalton ProutCGYUFA29DR1$800,000
    Martin MarincinTORUFA27DL2$800,000
    Luke SchennANAUFA29DR5$800,000
    Christian FolinPHIUFA28DR511$800,000
    Jake DotchinANAUFA28DR


    PLAYER (138)TEAMTYPEAGEPOS.SHOOTSGPGAPWGAASV%2018-2019 CAP HIT
    Jason SpezzaDALUFA36CR7145$7,500,000
    Mark StoneOTTUFA27RWR7426$7,350,000
    Artemi PanarinCBJUFA27LWR7369$6,000,000
    Matt DucheneOTTUFA28CL7178$6,000,000
    Jordan EberleNYIUFA29RWR722$6,000,000
    Joe PavelskiSJSUFA35CR844$6,000,000
    Jeff SkinnerBUFUFA27LWL9527$5,725,000
    Jason PominvilleBUFUFA36RWR9235$5,600,000
    Dave BollandAZUFA33CR$5,500,000
    Kevin HayesNYRUFA27CL8112$5,175,000
    Joe ThorntonSJSUFA40CL211$5,000,000
    Derick BrassardPITUFA32CL611$5,000,000
    Matt MoulsonBUFUFA35LWL$5,000,000
    Gustav NyquistDETUFA30RWL9167$4,750,000
    Jori LehteraPHIUFA31CL911$4,700,000
    Marcus JohanssonNJDUFA28CL6112$4,583,334
    Justin WilliamsCARUFA37RWR9178$4,500,000
    Mats Zuccarello-AasenNSHUFA32RWL866$4,500,000
    Brock NelsonNYIUFA27CL7213$4,250,000
    Carl HagelinPITUFA31LWL6112$4,000,000
    Wayne SimmondsPHIUFA31RWR9617$3,975,000
    Colin WilsonCOLUFA29CL933$3,937,500
    Jakob SilfverbergANAUFA28RWR6347$3,750,000
    Anders LeeNYIUFA29CL7224$3,750,000
    Eric StaalMINUFA34CL8235$3,500,000
    Jamie McGinnFLAUFA31LWL$3,333,334
    Riley SheahanPITUFA27LWL611$2,100,000
    Jan KovarNYIUFA29CR$2,000,000
    Joonas DonskoiSJSUFA27RWR8336$1,900,000
    Ryan DzingelOTTUFA27CL5224$1,800,000
    Jordan MartinookCARUFA27LWL9314$1,800,000
    Jordan WealPHIUFA27CR6123$1,750,000
    Patrick MaroonNJDUFA31LWL855$1,750,000
    Oscar LindbergVGKUFA27CL4$1,700,000
    Nate ThompsonLAKUFA34CL8$1,650,000
    Troy BrouwerFLAUFA34RWR6112$1,500,000


    there is a whole lot of talent in these lists - some might have resigned already not sure, and some likely will before next year...but take a look at the names and think who would look good in a Hawks uniform next season????
     
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    I want the Hawks to sign Dzingel. Quite affordable and quite good.
     
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    Karlsson, please take our money.

    That is the single biggest piece that could accelerate a total turnaround.
     
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    Wouldn't mind him as a 3C to replace Anisimov in that role.
     
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    Not worth it. He'll be getting Doughty money.
     
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    Silfverberg would be a Hossa-lite. I love the way Simmonds plays, but he gets hurt a lot. I wouldn’t mind Jake Gardner since we need a LHD that can skate.
     
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    I'd slot him as Kane's winger.
     
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    Plays a significantly more important role than Panarin. If people want Panarin, they should be okay with an extra million for Karlsson.
     
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    I don't think we should sign Panarin at all. Not for the 10M he'll command.
    Much cheaper to go after Dzingel, Duchene, Skinner, etc.
     
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    In a perfect world (if the money is okay) ... I'll even take the baggage.

    [​IMG]
     
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    local boy too...wish we got him somehow this season, he would look good here and would cost less than AA while producing more..just like RTR said...
     
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    Cheaper, sure. But the Hawks need immediate help on D to be competitive again. Only signing cheaper second line forward types doesn't make this team competitive next season.

    Just because Boqvist and Beaudin can potentially play next year doesn't mean they will be impact defensemen yet. It's unreasonable to expect Boqvist and Beaudin to step in next year and lead this team through the playoffs. Karlsson is a guy who can do just that.

    If I had to choose between Duchene at $7.5 million and Karlsson at $10 million, I think Karlsson is the better value to this team.
     
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    How has Karlsson's mobility been? I worry that his best days are behind him due to that ankle problem.
     
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    That's a no brainer. You pay the premium for a 29 year old HOF defensemen IF a star DMen is deemed necessary by the organization.
     
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    That could be a concern, but he seems like a guy who will remain productive well into his 30s because of his hockey IQ.
     
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    I am not for spending $10mm on a 29/30 yo D man.
     
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    I am always torn with adding 1 bigger name or two good names....it depends on who the bigger name is, and I have some concerns with Karlsson and his health, but he would have to be THE major target if he hits the UFA market for us. Regardless of when our kids will be ready, you can bring him in immediately and have a top 5-6 of Karlsson, Keith, Seabs, Joker, Murphy and Boqvist...add Forsling and Manning (still under contract not that I want him) and that could be your top 8 dmen for next year...that is a massive turnaround right there over adding say Dzingel and Schmidt - who I both really like, would likely add up to the same as Karlsson...but damn that blueline just looks sexier with EK in it!! hahaha

    But if we aren't in the running for EK...I am all for some type of combo of Dzingel, Schmidt, Gardiner and Silfverberg
     
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    I wouldn’t either unless it were a generational type. Luckily Karlsson is.
     
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    I like those names if we miss out on Karlsson.
     
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    Karlsson doesn't help us in the long term. He just eats up cap and makes it so we can't pay afford the younger guys when their ELCs run up. Makes more sense to sign Dzingel+Silfverberg and add scoring depth.
     
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    I dont see SJS letting him go without a fight. Also hes been lacking so far imo, I know its still the start of the season but to be goalless and praised from the high gods? Also is he a generational player?? Or a soon to be overpaid good Dman
     
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    Duchane or Panarin and call it a day.

    EK would be nice but at 12 million I dunno...
     
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    How does Karlsson not help us long term?

    He’s going to remain an elite 1D for what 4-5 years? That brings us to the end of the Toews and Kane contracts, and right to the point where Boqvist should be hitting his prime.

    There’s no point in wasting money on more depth scoring if this defense is garbage.
     
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    Karlsson will be 29 next year. IF Karlsson is healthy, he probably has ~5 years of his prime left (giving him until 33).

    However, if there are questions about Karlsson's health ... that would change the equation. Karlsson either needs to take a discount OR agree to a shorter contract. If not, I'm going in another direction. The Hawks can't afford another non performing expensive contract.

    What's the issues about Karlsson's long term mobility?
     
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    Panarin or Duchene don’t help you more than Karlsson.

    We need to be prepared for Boqvist to take years to develop into an elite d-man. By that time, Toews and Kane will be in decline.
     

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