Rumor: Voynov cleared to return to NHL [Bill Daly says report is false]

[SlimCharles]

It didn't seem like he was disliked on the kings tbh. Some American team should just take him it's not like they haven't brought back guys that have done the same thing or worse

Of course he wasn't disliked... that was before he beat up his wife.

 

[Sol]

Did her parents?

It's pretty common for abuse victims to 'forgive' their abusers.

While that's true to an extent, it's wrong to color forgiveness as "she doesn't know any better ". A lot of people forgive others because they love the person and the person changes for them.

The fact shes still with him can mean they've worked it out.


It's weird that people on here don't believe in second chances.

 

[Drew311]

He won't play a game. No team will let a marginally good player bring such a distraction. Got to imagine that players in the locker room won't like him...add in the backlash from the media...he's never playing again.

I think you’re being a bit naive.

 

[2Pair]

Why would a foreign national, convicted of domestic assault, even be allowed in the country?

 

[hockeyviking]

Heatly's incident was an accident, Voynov knowingly and willingly beat his wife.

Nobody got hurt in O'Reillys incident but I am all for him getting more punishment than he did. Not sure who Nashville guy is so can't comment.

Varlamov, Kane and Roy I have no issue with them getting harsher punishments at all.

Hull was over 50 years ago now not really sure that is comparably but yes he is a POS.

Varlamov was in court but even the best friend of his now exwife testified against her. It was all made up by her as a revenge for Him dumping her

 

[Bounces R Way]

This is pro sports, not a contest of moral turpitude. I suspect we'll see Voynov back in the NHL sooner rather than later. Don't really have an opinion one way or another if that's a good thing or bad but I do think he's a damn good defenseman. Hopefully ends up somewhere out of the Pacific.

 

[Sol]

Yes, but contextually I think it's a lot different:
Trying To Rebuild A Life

MacTavish killed Kim Radley during the 83-84 Season.

Drinking and Driving was still considered socially acceptable as late as 1978.
MADD was formed in 1980. It took several years for public perception to change on DUI's.

MacTavish's kind of came at the tail end of public acceptance for DUI. Pelle Lindburgh's DUI death kind of shook the hockey world more dramatically.

This kind of illustrates a better picture:
Drinking, driving in hockey: some traditions die hard

In Russia, it's socially acceptable that spouses fight physically. It's not like North America where there is a very sensitive light upon it so people are shamed. My parents said it was normal back there.


And if anyone knows anything about alcoholics, they can turn the nicest people to do some crazy immoral things.


I'm not saying it's okay but CONTEXT.

 

[TheDoldrums]

It's weird that people on here don't believe in second chances.

She told the people treating her that this wasn't an isolated incident.

 

[780il]

Id take him on the Oilers, we desperatly need a top 4 RD. But, Id only give him a contract if he shows true remorse/regret and his wife/family have forgiven him. Would also include a clause in the contract that makes them go to counselling twice a month something like others have said.


Kassian, MacT have both gotten second chances here, I'm open to giving Voynov one.

 

[Hanji]

So we are going with the two wrongs make a right argument?

The NHL shouldn’t use Hull and shouldn’t let Voynov back.

Right and wrong? Gimme a break. From a moral standpoint there's quite a few players who shouldn't and should not have been allowed to play.

However if a business makes their decisions based on moriality, that business is unlikely to get too far, especially in the entertainment industry.

Morality? Yea right. Welcome to the real world.

 

[Loosie]

Edmonton might be too much of a fishbowl, and would be too big a distraction.
As an Oiler fan though, I think the winning would out weigh the negative impact his off ice issues would bring.

Guy beats his wife....but hey as long as we're winning who cares!

 

[mouser]

I think the NHL would have a hard time re-instating him. This isn't the MLB or NFL. Media and fans will burn them and the team to the ground if he steps foot on NHL ice.

The NHL will reinstate him, so long as Voynov follows through with the NHL's disciplinary process (i.e. suspension) and is cleared for a work visa. There is a collective bargaining agreement between the NHL and Players Union--the NHL can't unilaterally ban him, they would most likely lose a grievance if they tried to do so.

Whether a team would want to sign him, well that's up to the team.

 

[Loosie]

Thread title needs to be updated.

My understanding of it is that the KHL team has cleared him he to pursue a return to the NHL. The NHL has not said he's cleared to come back

 

[booyakasha]

Guy beats his wife....but hey as long as we're winning who cares!

now you're getting it.

 

[nickdawg95]

Keep him off my team.
No use for a scum bag like him.

he's a #2-3 D-man, he would be useful on every team except nashville/tampa

 

[BatVader]

he's a #2-3 D-man, he would be useful on every team except nashville/tampa

He’s a piece of shit scum bag who shouldn’t be allowed to play in the league again.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

Keep him off my team.
No use for a scum bag like him.

"Your" team?

It's a little sad to judge someone and their personal problems from behind a computer screen.