Blue Jays Discussion: Roy Halladay elected to 2019 Baseball Hall of Fame class

[Vito_81]

What’s the deal with Vladdy Jr and the Jays holding his rights longer?

If he starts with the team from day one of the 2019 season its one scenario, but if he starts in May of 2019 they hold his rights for an entire extra season?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

What’s the deal with Vladdy Jr and the Jays holding his rights longer?

If he starts with the team from day one of the 2019 season its one scenario, but if he starts in May of 2019 they hold his rights for an entire extra season?

Basically yes. Though I believe the actually date is sometime in late April about 3 weeks into the season.

 

[Eyedea]

What’s the deal with Vladdy Jr and the Jays holding his rights longer?

If he starts with the team from day one of the 2019 season its one scenario, but if he starts in May of 2019 they hold his rights for an entire extra season?

A full season for a player is 172 days (based on their service time), but an entire regular MLB season is 178+ days. So based on this, the Jays (and other teams) manipulate the player's service time by not calling them up until they know the player will spend less than 172 days in the season, allowing them to have the player under control for 7 years instead of just 6.

 

[phillipmike]

Almost a 3 WAR player last year in Asdrubal Cabrera gets a 1 year deal worth 3.5M with the Rangers. A bunch of bargains can still be had.

 

[Eyedea]

Almost a 3 WAR player last year in Asdrubal Cabrera gets a 1 year deal worth 3.5M with the Rangers. A bunch of bargains can still be had.

Combined -23 DRS last season.

 

[phillipmike]

Combined -23 DRS last season.

Definitely polarizing in the field. Last year he was a bad 2B but somewhat sreviceable at SS and 3B (still below average). But it is his bat that can be an asset. Needs to put up 0.3-0.4 WAR to be worth it which is a good bet in my opinion considering he has done at least that in every season in his career and has been at least 1 WAR since 2010. Definitely some surplus value that can be had.

 

[Discoverer]

Definitely polarizing in the field. Last year he was a bad 2B but somewhat sreviceable at SS and 3B (still below average). But it is his bat that can be an asset. Needs to put up 0.3-0.4 WAR to be worth it which is a good bet in my opinion considering he has done at least that in every season in his career and has been at least 1 WAR since 2010. Definitely some surplus value that can be had.

Averaging out DRS and UZR and pro-rating it per 1000 innings, Cabrera's -14 the last two years ranks him 48th out of 49 players who have played at least 500 innings at SS (and that -14 is a pretty enormous dropoff from Aledmys Diaz, who's 45th overall but vastly superior at just -7.8).

I think this is a really good signing for the Rangers and they should get pretty good returns on a cheap veteran utility player who they can likely flip at the deadline. But there's a reason he's played so little SS the last couple years: he's really terrible at it.

 

[phillipmike]

Averaging out DRS and UZR and pro-rating it per 1000 innings, Cabrera's -14 the last two years ranks him 48th out of 49 players who have played at least 500 innings at SS (and that -14 is a pretty enormous dropoff from Aledmys Diaz, who's 45th overall but vastly superior at just -7.8).

I think this is a really good signing for the Rangers and they should get pretty good returns on a cheap veteran utility player who they can likely flip at the deadline. But there's a reason he's played so little SS the last couple years: he's really terrible at it.

More to his value than just defense. Rangers say they will play him exclusively at 3B so they should see some value at him playing 3B over SS.

 

[Discoverer]

More to his value than just defense. Rangers say they will play him exclusively at 3B so they should see some value at him playing 3B over SS.

For sure. Like I said, I think it's a good signing.

 

[landy92mack29]

 

[Eyedea]

That’s my ace.

Roy Halladay


Also Mo became the first unanimously voted player into the hall.

 

[The Nemesis]

Larry Walker: 54.6% of the vote.

54%!

That's the only thing that really miffs me about the HOF class. Maybe mildly Rivera getting unanimity instead of Griffey (given how much old school baseball people whine about relievers not being special).

Well deserved for Doc though. If only he were able to be here to enjoy it.

 

[Liminality]

I love this graphic

 

[canucksfan]

He goes in as a Jay and not a Philly right?

EDIT stupid question thought he played more seasons with the Phillies.

 

[ER89]

I love this graphic

Gave me the chills. To know he threw those pitches, and having watched him to also realize he isn't there... huge part of my childhood

 

[canucksfan]

Three locks; Jansen, Vlad, Bo.
Pearson almost for sure another lock.

Leaves three more, I would say Pardinho, Smith and SRF.

 

[93LEAFS]

Congrats to Doc, an iconic Toronto athlete. I hope he is the 2nd person to go in with the Blue Jays logo on the cap. I fully expect it, but stranger things have happened.

 

[Anthrax442]

I can't wait.

 

[Anthrax442]

Congrats to Doc, an iconic Toronto athlete. I hope he is the 2nd person to go in with the Blue Jays logo on the cap. I fully expect it, but stranger things have happened.

Who was 1st? Alomar?

 

[BertCorbeau]

This nearly made me tear up

 

[koyvoo]

He’s a guy who got me to continually buy tickets in era where I wouldn’t otherwise do so.

 

[Muston Atthews]

Congrats to Doc, an iconic Toronto athlete. I hope he is the 2nd person to go in with the Blue Jays logo on the cap. I fully expect it, but stranger things have happened.

We’ll see... statement came from the Phillies

 

[Muston Atthews]

Congrats to Doc, an iconic Toronto athlete. I hope he is the 2nd person to go in with the Blue Jays logo on the cap. I fully expect it, but stranger things have happened.

We’ll see... statement came from the Phillies

 

[Morgs]

Guy retired with the Jays for a reason.




... hopefully.

Edit:

 

[phillipmike]

Doc in the new Jays gear is awesome;