Tribute Vitali Kravtsov <3

[duhmetreE]

We got Cuylle for Andersson
We got BMB for Georgiev

I like our chances in this draft whatever we get for Kravtsov

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

We got Cuylle for Andersson
We got BMB for Georgiev

I like our chances in this draft whatever we get for Kravtsov

Those guys had value.

 

[Daves a mess]

Your post reminded me of the newest episode of South Park. They had an establishment that was there to create a “brand” for each individual. In each brand description there was a “victim” as part of its description.

Haha. That's a bingo!

I'm betting on a 40 point career total in the NHL.

Then a fade to Red.

 

[surlysailor]

Those guys had value.

But according to brooks neither had value prior to their trades. Brooks said everyone knew geo would not be qo’d, so no one would trade anything of value for him. He also said no one wanted lias since he refused the ahl.

 

[duhmetreE]

Those guys had value.

He has value if he signed and traded.

Any team who moves for him would want that security, unless it’s Chicago

 

[CasusBelli]

Those guys had value.

Youth premium is gone.
Hasn’t produced with decent players.
Hasn’t produced with elite players.

Doubt we get more than a third at this point.

Best use would be to package him with our remaining first rounder for a higher first.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

But according to brooks neither had value prior to their trades. Brooks said everyone knew geo would not be qo’d, so no one would trade anything of value for him. He also said no one wanted lias since he refused the ahl.

Lias was coming off of strong SHL play and we were lucky he had family in the king org.

The Georgiev trade came together because Colorado had a need at the position and the flat cap helped us tremendously.

Krav has been cheeks this year and is a selfish flight risk.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Lias was coming off of strong SHL play and we were lucky he had family in the king org.

The Georgiev trade came together because Colorado had a need at the position and the flat cap helped us tremendously.

Krav has been cheeks this year and is a selfish flight risk.

The 2 situations of Andersson and Kravtsov are also vastly different.

Kravtsov refused to report to Hartford when he was sent down, whereas Andersson reported and only walked away from the team when he went through injuries and wasn't allowed to rehab the way he wanted, feeling isolated in Hartford and bringing up his concerns several times. Talent aside, the situation with Andersson was more "fixable" than the one with Kravtsov. Also because the KHL is a valid alternative to the AHL.

 

[bl02]

Send him to Montreal for Ylonen.

 

[egelband]

Send him to Montreal for Ylonen.

Do we have enough cap space to buy a vowel? Maybe this has to be a three-way deal…

 

[Machinehead]

Kravtsov is still better than the vast majority of prospects and has already gone further than 90% of the guys drafted after first round go.

It's silly to say he has no value at all.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

So if Kravtsov gets traded, reports to new team, and sucks ballz after 10 games, is it still " cool" if he, when asked, refuses to go to the AHL and/ or bolts back to the KHL?

I know. New team is clueless to his skillzzz and their coach should be FIRED for not seeing this victimized generational talent with a neck boner?

If it's for another team, I don't really care what he does.

 

[haohmaru]

If Kravtsov is this sure fire top 6 top 9 player then he’s surely worth a 2nd rounder to someone, no? Apparently not. Better off holding on to him and crossing your fingers.

 

[EdJovanovski]

 

[haohmaru]

If that ^ shit beared any weight, teams would be tripping over themselves with high picks in hand wanting Kravtsov.

 

[EdJovanovski]

If that ^ shit beared any weight, teams would be tripping over themselves with high picks in hand wanting Kravtsov.

I think the main hang up teams have is the perceived character issues and red flags popping up because of the fact we keep scratching him, his analytics are great across the board from every single source; its weird.

 

[Mandar]

I think the main hang up teams have is the perceived character issues and red flags popping up because of the fact we keep scratching him, his analytics are great across the board from every single source; its weird.

Or……

He is supposed to have some sort of offensive prowess, and he is devoid of any offensive production. Not many teams are clamoring for a less productive Jimmy Vesey.

 

[n8]

Gotta imagine Gorton is willing to trade for him. The thing is Gorton is a better trader than Drury so that's a matchup that isn't in our favor. Maybe JD in CLB? JD likes good character guys though so the trade demand would probably sour any attachment he might have had for the kid.

 

[TominNC]

Look at the other names higher on that chart. How valid is it?

 

[will1066]

Get ready to say goodbye

 

[EdJovanovski]

Or……

He is supposed to have some sort of offensive prowess, and he is devoid of any offensive production. Not many teams are clamoring for a less productive Jimmy Vesey.

He's a rookie lol, just because he hasn't produced much in his first 48 NHL games doesn't mean he won't in the future. Look at the hands he has, the creativity, the shot, the vision, etc:

He was billed as a one dimensional prototypical Russian forward who was all flash and a complete disregard for play without the puck, but he's already playing great defensively as a rookie. I think he's been forced to play too safe which has stifled his offense

 

[failure]

If Kravtsov played with Veseys energy he would have no issues staying in. I don't have the vision you all have but it looks like he is coasting out there which comes off as lazy.

 

[EdJovanovski]

If Kravtsov played with Veseys energy he would have no issues staying in. I don't have the vision you all have but it looks like he is coasting out there which comes off as lazy.

That's the Rangers mindset, crappy skaters who look like they're trying hard and doin stuff lol. Kravtsov is a fluid effortless skater who's really tall with long strides, so he can look "lazier" while covering more ice than subpar skaters with choppy strides. His stick is very active and he is almost always the first forward back on the backcheck, before the center. And the first forward in on the forecheck. He just looks so graceful doing it because of his appreciation for the aesthetics of the sport, and the fact he's very long with efficient strides

 

[TominNC]

He's a rookie lol, just because he hasn't produced much in his first 48 NHL games doesn't mean he won't in the future. Look at the hands he has, the creativity, the shot, the vision, etc:

He was billed as a one dimensional prototypical Russian forward who was all flash and a complete disregard for play without the puck, but he's already playing great defensively as a rookie. I think he's been forced to play too safe which has stifled his offense

That's not the NHL.

 

[EdJovanovski]

That's not the NHL.

Watch the video man there is plenty of NHL highlights in it lol, and it's from a very small sample size as it was made prior to this season. C'mon man you can't watch that video and tell me he has no skill, creativity, hands, etc. He definitely has plenty of untapped offensive potential, coupled with an already very solid defensive game. If you take away his draft pedigree & upside he's already the type of player people would be clamoring for to add to their bottom 6 lol, I'd rather take a great defensive player who has a chance of breaking out offensively over a great defensive player who's already hit their ceiling