Confirmed Trade: [VGK/CHI/TOR] Robin Lehner, Dzierkals to VGK, M. Subban, S. Demin, 2020 2nd to CHI, 2020 5th to TOR

[hatterson]

A free pick

Well it looks like it cost them $190k.

But yea free in terms of team assets.

 

[Schenn]

Work on improving their own team instead of helping others.

I mean, they got a pick for almost nothing. I'm not for or against what Dubas did today, but you're really nitpicking if you have a problem with the Leafs for this.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

what were they supposed to do instead?

Option 1
Sell if you don’t believe it’s your year, that way you can get more picks if you love picks so much

Option 2
Add real pieces to shake up the team if you still believe this is your year

Stand pad is literally the worst

 

[Petrus]

Somebody offer a free pick you take it. This is not hard to grasp.

 

[slappipappi]

I like Lehner, but th is trade feels like Chicago saying "screw you" to him and sending him somewhere he won't get to play, despite the nothing return. Have to think several teams would've beaten this offer. Keeping him wouldve beaten this offer. 3 teams in 3 years have walked away from him despite him playing extremely well. Either he's intolerable to deal with, or his agent is. That's my impression anyway, fwiw.

A 2nd round pick+ is a nothing return?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Option 1
Sell if you don’t believe it’s your year, that way you can get more picks if you love picks so much

Option 2
Add real pieces to shake up the team if you still believe this is your year

Stand pad is literally the worst

what if there wasn't a good deal to be made? Sometimes it's okay to not lose a trade just so you can say you did something. the Leafs making this move had nothing to do with them not making other moves, it was just something they felt was worth pursuing. and it was, since it was basically a free pick

 

[Petrus]

what if there wasn't a good deal to be made? Sometimes it's okay to not lose a trade just so you can say you did something. the Leafs making this move had nothing to do with them not making other moves, it was just something they felt was worth pursuing. and it was, since it was basically a free pick

Just to add to this. The leafs also address one of their problems a couple of weeks ago: Backup Goalie.

 

[Recipe Unlimited]

Why did the Leafs waste their time with this?

This is a unexpectedly weak take from someone who's been on this site for so long.

I'm sure you know that each franchise has a whole group of staff in management, so they can delegate simple stuff like this to specific people, while still keeping the ability to negotiate other trades.

 

[DatDude44]

Option 1
Sell if you don’t believe it’s your year, that way you can get more picks if you love picks so much

Option 2
Add real pieces to shake up the team if you still believe this is your year

Stand pad is literally the worst

Tell that to Doug Armstrong last year.......

 

[GKJ]

This is a unexpectedly weak take from someone who's been on this site for so long.

I'm sure you know that each franchise has a whole group of staff in management, so they can delegate simple stuff like this to specific people, while still keeping the ability to negotiate other trades.

We hear every single year about teams working on deals but they run out of time. These people aren't as smart or daft as people like to think.

 

[Seachd]

So since three-way trades don't actually exist in the NHL, did anyone figure out what actually happened to get this done?

I'm thinking it must have been 3 trades:

1 (this one is a for sure, as Chicago's press release mentions it)

TOR: Lehner
CHI: Dzierkals

2

VGK: Lehner
TOR: 5th

3

CHI: Subban, Demin, 2nd
VGK: Dzierkals

Edit: Ok, this is good timing, since this was just tweeted:

 

[Kristopher Letang]

This is when Subban’s career ends. What a time to be alive!

 

[Iceman]

Not thinking about this trade in particular but I feel that Chicago has done a lot of shit trades since their 3rd Cup. Is this a give something back To the rest of the teams thing?

 

[dubey]

Option 1
Sell if you don’t believe it’s your year, that way you can get more picks if you love picks so much

Option 2
Add real pieces to shake up the team if you still believe this is your year

Stand pad is literally the worst

Anyone looking for a GM? lmao

 

[Leaf Fans]

Lol at the ppl complaining why the leafs got a 5th. Leafs legit got an extra pick for absolutely nothing.... Now we got 10picks...

They retained salary on Lehner 44%

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Lol at the ppl complaining why the leafs got a 5th. Leafs legit got an extra pick for absolutely nothing.... Now we got 10picks...

Put an asterisk
10 picks but not first and 3rd, most are 6th and 7th

 

[DatDude44]

St Louis did not lose to a zamboni driver right before TDL

What's that have to do with his point that standing pat is the absolute worst thing?

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

What's that have to do with his point that standing pat is the absolute worst thing?

What that kind of embarrassment happen during an already underwhelming season
You either sell hard or add hard
Period

 

[WATTAGE4451]

is MAF hurt? Weird deal

Fleury has been one of the worst starters in the league

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Instead
He saved two shots from a Mathews

lol wow 2 shots. so just because hes a no body it's impossible to stop a couple shots? everybody ignoring the fact that Carolina played a near perfect 3rd period.
playing like that I bet more teams than just the leafs would have lost that 3rd.
The amount of people that hate on the leafs for zero reason is extremely annoying. if this was any other team it would have been forgotten about already

 

[Recipe Unlimited]

We hear every single year about teams working on deals but they run out of time. These people aren't as smart or daft as people like to think.

But why would the leafs care of the deal doesn't happen because they ran out of time? This is a no-lose situation. (Other than MLSE's balance sheet)

 

[SirKillalot]

A free pick

Well...they pay $190.000 for it apparently.
Will be fun if the 5th round player actually becomes good. Then they could say he was worth 190k.

 

[WATTAGE4451]

I like Lehner, but th is trade feels like Chicago saying "screw you" to him and sending him somewhere he won't get to play, despite the nothing return. Have to think several teams would've beaten this offer. Keeping him wouldve beaten this offer. 3 teams in 3 years have walked away from him despite him playing extremely well. Either he's intolerable to deal with, or his agent is. That's my impression anyway, fwiw.

Why wouldnt he get to play? Fleury has a .906 sv%

He is massively overrated by everyone. Outside of a career year his forst year in vegas, he has been merely an average goalie his entire career who lost his job to his backup in pittsburgh and probably should have lost his job this year except for the fact his backup is even bigger garbage

 

[Kuznetsnow]

Well...they pay $190.000 for it apparently.
Will be fun if the 5th round player actually becomes good. Then they could say he was worth 190k.

Not if they dongblocked Carolina by doing it. Skjei, Vatanen and Trocheck with both their mediocre 1A and 1B goalies injured and no upgrade coming there doesn't sound like a playoff run going all according to plan. Lehner had real potential to provide a greater impact down the stretch than all three of those players combined.

 

[Accelleratii]

Well my fantasy season just went down the tube.