I'm not going to believe he's got massive untapped potential, but the league is full of solid players that are simply well-rounded and keep working at their game and are definitely not done developing at 23.Welcome to the no-spin zone
The minors and Euro leagues are littered with “well-rounded players.” Label it all how you’d like. But he’s reaching the end stages of his development curve and is still only a hair above being a quad-A player.
I agree, the NHL is also littered with replacement-level players, a majority of which can be described as "well-rounded." And that's all I'm saying about Veleno.... is he going to rise above replacement level? It's possible, but I have my doubts due to A) what I've seen from him thus far, and B) the fact that, while he isn't done developing, he's getting close, and has shown very little to suggest he's going to take a leap in the next year or two.
I don't see Kasper getting a roster spot until Fabbri's wheel falls off again. Unfortunate for him, but it's almost like everyone (Wings management and fans) is expecting that to happen. At that point I assume Fisher or Veleno sit in the pressbox. Always the possibility that Sprong winds up in the doghouse because he always does.
He shoots well and has some moves when he wants to use them, but I'm not sure he's ever going to put everything together. Hopefully this contract negotiation will make him understand that he needs to do more than just kill ice time. Arbitration for forwards is almost entirely based on point production.
And neither of those have tried to end anyones careeer by kicking them with skates on. This bum needs to go. Im so mad Yzerman gave this clown another contract, just bury him to minors please.
Lol. When I said earlier that I suspect something’s missing between his ears, I had actually forgotten about the kicking incident. Thanks for the reminder
Someone said his stomps per 60 was elite and I was like oh sh*t that's cold, but also kinda accurate.Lol. When I said earlier that I suspect something’s missing between his ears, I had actually forgotten about the kicking incident. Thanks for the reminder
Agreed. It's a make or break year for Veleno.
Hate is probably a strong word. The problem you run into here with Joe is that you've got a young kid, highly drafted and regarded, that has been wholly unremarkable in his NHL career. Absolutely nothing you can point to and say, he does this well. Like, the only thing you can really say for him is that (barring his atrocious faceoffs) he doesn't do anything to hurt the team. Almost forgettable. Then he pulls one of the most egregious infractions possible on the global stage. That's gonna stick with you.
Oh there's definitely some hate. Maybe not you in particular, but I feel it.
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I don't hate Veleno, I just never saw what some other people saw. I've never had him above Rasmussen, and I think that was a minority opinion on this board at one point.
