Vegas Expansion Thread (Nate Schmidt selected)
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HeyMattyB
Sports bring out the worst in everyone.
I've been so wrapped up in my frustration that I had seriously never considered this and it's blowing my mind right now.
Demandedace
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That's a bit of a relief to be honest. I much rather he stay in Vegas in the western conference than traded to the Pens to bolster their lineup more
RandyHolt
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Why did George take salary dumps / less than the best available from some teams?
Did the math not work? Sure he wants picks in the end and to draft his own team, but I think he can still flip a better player for the same return of a lessor player, at worst.
I am thinking if he drafted too many good players, he'd be pressured to compete and risked the team doing too well. Which adds pressure to not sell at the deadline. But, he could also sell those same players this summer, and never let them play a game.
It just seems an odd expansion draft, but there is little to compare it to. I don't like giving him a player from every team when he wants to build through the draft. Give him 1 prospect, instead of a roster player. Maybe he got future considerations on some of the picks he made.
It seems like he is ripe to be looted at this point. Drafting 13 D seems over the top. I hope teams low ball every offer made to George, knowing he HAS to move D out. Or make no calls at all, and wait for him to call.
Did the math not work? Sure he wants picks in the end and to draft his own team, but I think he can still flip a better player for the same return of a lessor player, at worst.
I am thinking if he drafted too many good players, he'd be pressured to compete and risked the team doing too well. Which adds pressure to not sell at the deadline. But, he could also sell those same players this summer, and never let them play a game.
It just seems an odd expansion draft, but there is little to compare it to. I don't like giving him a player from every team when he wants to build through the draft. Give him 1 prospect, instead of a roster player. Maybe he got future considerations on some of the picks he made.
It seems like he is ripe to be looted at this point. Drafting 13 D seems over the top. I hope teams low ball every offer made to George, knowing he HAS to move D out. Or make no calls at all, and wait for him to call.
Hivemind
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RH, he struck deals with teams before the roster freeze. Some of those "best available" players weren't really available. Dumba was only exposed because they had a deal in place with Vegas before the roster freeze. If they didn't have that deal in place, they would have traded Dumba/Brodin to a team that could protect them in order to avoid losing them for nothing. Same thing with Anaheim.
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g00n
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Nice. Thanks.
So it looks like, thus far, they've only had a few dance partners for high picks and even though they've got assets they could move it's unlikely imo that they grab any more 1st or 2nd rounders unless there's some complex deal in the works, which I doubt.
McPhee is missing that flashy, marketing piece. I guess that's why so much focus is on MAF so far. Maybe one more big deal is on tap.
Hivemind
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They will have to move a few more defensemen before the start of the season, but I doubt any of the returns will be particularly flashy. Maybe they get a 1st for Methot.
They will also pick up a few 2018 picks as they approach the deadline. Most of the "bad contracts" they picked up expire soon, making them movable rental assets. The exception being Clarkson, of course.
Depending on how much salary they clear with the defense trades, they could make a play for a significant forward or two in free agency.
They will also pick up a few 2018 picks as they approach the deadline. Most of the "bad contracts" they picked up expire soon, making them movable rental assets. The exception being Clarkson, of course.
Depending on how much salary they clear with the defense trades, they could make a play for a significant forward or two in free agency.
How does the RFA thing work with the expansion draft? Schmidt is an RFA this year. Does that mean the Caps could make him an offer to come back and then the GN could either match it or let him walk back to the Caps with the appropriate compensation?
Or, since the Caps lost him, are they not allowed to make him an offer?
Or, since the Caps lost him, are they not allowed to make him an offer?
This times a million.
And if I have to read one more time about losing a "young" player..... Schmidt is 26 in three weeks, he is not young by NHL standards.
I will miss him, but holy over-reaction batman.
SimplySensational
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McPhee made his damn choice based upon what would hurt the Capitals the most.
The idiot should have taken Grubbauer.
The idiot should have taken Grubbauer.
Capitals40
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That thought has occurred to me. They have so many defencemen and Gruby just seemed like the logical choice.
Skrudland2Lomakin
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If this is actually the case then McPhee is a worse GM than I originally thought. You can't hold grudges as GM or operate out of spite, you have to have a short memory. There are only 30 other GMs in the league, you start pissing off people for the sake of pissing them off and your list of partners will be very short.
BiPolar Caps
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Perhaps the Caps can reacquire Nate Schmidt. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2017/06/knights-technically-players.html
amjay13
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Orpik, Grubauer and next years 1st for Schmidt.
You get your top 4 d-man back and free up money to sign Williams and/or other FAs.
You get your top 4 d-man back and free up money to sign Williams and/or other FAs.
BiPolar Caps
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That's too much from a Caps standpoint. No higher than a 3rd round pick in 2020 would be what I do. What did the Pens give up for selecting Fleury, a 5th round pick. Perhaps Orpik, Grubauer and Connolly for Schmidt. With that and reacquiring Schmidt that's about 5 mil in cap space you gained.
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Grubauer for Schmidt is pretty close to fair, but to get them to take on Orpik is will cost a lot more than a Connolly or a 3rd.
Besides giving them Grubauer just leaves them with a goalie they don't need or want.
perhaps Orpik + 1st + Connolly for Schmidt.
BiPolar Caps
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2018 suppose to be a strong draft and after this past weekend, I don't want to see the Caps trading anymore picks for a while.
Just remove all the machinations and just do a one for one deal with Vegas and send them Johansson straight up for Schmidt. Depending on what Schmidt resigns for, this may end up with about 1.5 to 2 mil cap relief which will contribute to the "Resign Justin Williams fund".
Burakovsky - Backstrom - Oshie
Vrana - Kuznetsov - Williams
Ovechkin - Eller - Wilson
Hershey player - Beagle - Connolly
Niskanen - Orlov
Schmidt - Carlson
Orpik - Bowey
Chorney
someone has to think post this year too.I wouldn't mind a Schmidt for Johansson, but there would need to be a + added to Schmidt, they are not equal. Orpik needs to go no matter what next year so we should trade him now for someone like Gorges. Or maybe Johansson + Orpik for Schmidt + Emelin.
g00n
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